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Title: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 27, 2012, 10:07:34 PM
Here is what I have so far:

1st ??
2nd - Steal Size (Races of Dragon)
3rd ??
4th - Manifest Desire (Heroes of Horror)
5th ??
6th ??
7th - Phantasimal Thief (Draconomicon)
8th - Steal Life (Book of Vile Darkness)
9th ??

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: whitesword on February 27, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
Some spells dealing with treasure or money need to be mixed in; otherwise it becomes a Thievery or Stealing domain.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Hero on February 28, 2012, 07:11:50 AM
3. Treasure Scent (SpC)
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 29, 2012, 01:18:54 PM
1. Sticky Fingers (SpC)
5. Leomund's Secret Chest

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Hero on February 29, 2012, 10:30:20 PM
Sticky Fingers would only be useful to a cleric only if you give Sleight of Hand as part of the domain ability.

Secret Chest is a good one.

Note that Phantasmal Thief in your list was reprinted in SpC. Not sure if it was updated.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Windblade on February 29, 2012, 11:37:06 PM
Sticky Fingers would only be useful to a cleric only if you give Sleight of Hand as part of the domain ability.

Secret Chest is a good one.

Note that Phantasmal Thief in your list was reprinted in SpC. Not sure if it was updated.

Agree
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on April 27, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
1st - Sticky Fingers (SpC)
2nd - Steal Size (Races of Dragon) OR Entice Gift (Dr)
3rd - Treasure Scent (SpC) OR Miser's Envy
4th - Manifest Desire (Heroes of Horror) OR Hoard Life (RotD)
5th - Leomund's Secret Chest
6th - Steal Summoning
7th - Phantasimal Thief (Draconomicon)
8th - Steal Life (Book of Vile Darkness)
9th - Absorption

Granted Power: Sleight of Hand and Appraise are always class skills for the cleric.  The cleric can perform an appraise check in half the normal time (5 rounds).  If the cleric chooses to take the full ten rounds, he may Take 10 on the check.  When using Sleight of Hand to steal and item, or when in the process of amassing wealth, the cleric gains a +4 divine bonus to the skill check.

Need lots of votes.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Zunder on April 27, 2012, 01:55:40 PM
 - Entice Gift
 - Treasure Scent

 - Hoard Life









Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: whitesword on April 27, 2012, 03:19:45 PM
I'll look the options up when I get home. Which powers get this domain?  I think that should have some effect on the characters of the spells. Steal Life is a Vile spell for example and could not be used by a non-evil caster.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on April 27, 2012, 03:32:19 PM
Lavash'Ki

Spinnar

possibly Frostine
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: whitesword on April 27, 2012, 03:39:52 PM
Lavash'Ki

Spinnar

possibly Frostine
With that being the list, and while I think LK should be evil that's a different discussion, I would say we should limit the really evil spells.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Windblade on April 27, 2012, 07:21:49 PM
I'll look the options up when I get home. Which powers get this domain?  I think that should have some effect on the characters of the spells. Steal Life is a Vile spell for example and could not be used by a non-evil caster.

Agreed
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Windblade on April 27, 2012, 07:22:31 PM
1st - Sticky Fingers (SpC)
2nd - Steal Size (Races of Dragon) OR Entice Gift (Dr)
3rd - Treasure Scent (SpC) OR Miser's Envy
4th - Manifest Desire (Heroes of Horror) OR Hoard Life (RotD)
5th - Leomund's Secret Chest
6th - Steal Summoning
7th - Phantasimal Thief (Draconomicon)
8th - Steal Life (Book of Vile Darkness)
9th - Absorption

Granted Power: Sleight of Hand and Appraise are always class skills for the cleric.  The cleric can perform an appraise check in half the normal time (5 rounds).  If the cleric chooses to take the full ten rounds, he may Take 10 on the check.  When using Sleight of Hand to steal and item, or when in the process of amassing wealth, the cleric gains a +4 divine bonus to the skill check.

Need lots of votes.

Entice Gift
Miser's Envy
Manifest Desire

Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: master po on April 27, 2012, 09:53:00 PM
I like Steal Size, Treasure Scent, and Manifest Desire. 

Claude has potions that will turn gold into liquid form(misersorrow) without changing any of the properties.  If you leave it alone it will harden in ten days.  Since this is for Clerics maybe you could make that ability part of the granted powers.  Just a thought but might be cool.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: whitesword on April 27, 2012, 10:27:07 PM
Phantasmal Thief is now an 8th level spell per the search engines.  Its also the 8th level spell in the official domain.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on April 27, 2012, 10:32:51 PM
I am aware, just trying to fit spells in.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: whitesword on April 27, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
Teleport Object I think works fine as the 7th level spell.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: whitesword on April 27, 2012, 10:37:12 PM
1st - Sticky Fingers (SpC)
2nd - Steal Size (Races of Dragon) OR Entice Gift (Dr)
3rd - Treasure Scent (SpC) OR Miser's Envy
4th - Manifest Desire (Heroes of Horror) OR Hoard Life (RotD)
5th - Leomund's Secret Chest
6th - Steal Summoning
7th - Phantasimal Thief (Draconomicon)
8th - Steal Life (Book of Vile Darkness)
9th - Absorption

Granted Power: Sleight of Hand and Appraise are always class skills for the cleric.  The cleric can perform an appraise check in half the normal time (5 rounds).  If the cleric chooses to take the full ten rounds, he may Take 10 on the check.  When using Sleight of Hand to steal and item, or when in the process of amassing wealth, the cleric gains a +4 divine bonus to the skill check.

Need lots of votes.
Entice Gift, Treasure Scent, Manifest Desire.  Unless Lavash Ki is moved to evil, in which case I would vote for Miser's Envy
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on April 28, 2012, 11:41:49 AM
Entice is winning 3-1

Treasure Scent 3-1

Manifest Desire 3-1

Valdis, Hero, votes please.

As for Lavah'Ki being evil, he's not for now....

I don't see Teleport Object as a Greedy spell, unless you can Teleport objects from elsewhere to yourself.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: whitesword on April 28, 2012, 11:56:14 AM


I don't see Teleport Object as a Greedy spell, unless you can Teleport objects from elsewhere to yourself.
It's the ultimate "taking" spell.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on April 28, 2012, 12:05:34 PM
Let's add Phantasimal Thief vs Teleport Object to our voting.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: whitesword on April 28, 2012, 12:29:52 PM
Let's add Phantasimal Thief vs Teleport Object to our voting.
We need Phantasmal Thief at 8th to get rid of Steal Life.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on April 28, 2012, 12:35:02 PM
Steal Life not greedy?
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Windblade on April 28, 2012, 12:46:53 PM
I agree I don't see steal life as a greedy spell.  Greed to me revolves around monetary wealth and power.  I see steal life as much more sinister.
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on April 28, 2012, 01:32:12 PM
1st - Sticky Fingers (SpC)
2nd - Steal Size (Races of Dragon) OR Entice Gift (Dr)
3rd - Treasure Scent (SpC) OR Miser's Envy
4th - Manifest Desire (Heroes of Horror) OR Hoard Life (RotD)
5th - Leomund's Secret Chest
6th - Steal Summoning
7th - Teleport Object
8th - Phantasimal Thief (Draconomicon)
9th - Absorption

Granted Power: Sleight of Hand and Appraise are always class skills for the cleric.  The cleric can perform an appraise check in half the normal time (5 rounds).  If the cleric chooses to take the full ten rounds, he may Take 10 on the check.  When using Sleight of Hand to steal and item, or when in the process of amassing wealth, the cleric gains a +4 divine bonus to the skill check.

Thoughts on the granted power?
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Valdis on April 29, 2012, 08:40:45 PM
The granted power sounds good

as for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th level spells, I would vote for the first from each
Title: Re: Greed Domain
Post by: Asinjin on May 02, 2012, 09:45:19 AM
1st - Sticky Fingers (SpC)
2nd - Entice Gift (Dr)
3rd - Treasure Scent (SpC)
4th - Manifest Desire (Heroes of Horror)
5th - Leomund's Secret Chest
6th - Steal Summoning
7th - Teleport Object
8th - Phantasimal Thief (Draconomicon)
9th - Absorption

Granted Power: Sleight of Hand and Appraise are always class skills for the cleric.  The cleric can perform an appraise check in half the normal time (5 rounds).  If the cleric chooses to take the full ten rounds, he may Take 10 on the check.  When using Sleight of Hand to steal and item, or when in the process of amassing wealth, the cleric gains a +4 divine bonus to the skill check.

Based on voting, this is what we have.  Unless any objections, locked tomorrow.