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Title: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 12:02:56 AM
Everyone gets 500xp with personal to come.

A posting of events and information for Terrorshard would be good.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 12:04:24 AM
The last question that was asked was who does he know in the place.

He is eager to talk and the longer you talk, the clearer he seems; although his knowledge does not grow.

This whole process takes hours, as you spend time translating for everyone.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 12:11:15 AM
The first name he mentions of this place is the ruler of the Sun Elves.

"The term they use is Nesut, it means king or similar.  Nesut Kahemweset Astarion, the ruler of the sun elves."
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Malchia on May 08, 2024, 07:28:09 AM
RECAP
The group met with the Daimyo after a night of restoration and recovery in their cells. He basically told us the offer to collect the lost "spectacles" was off and that he had a new deal for us. He would summon the warlord of the lands and we would do as he pleased. The warlord, Etch, was familiar with people who were from another world similar to the one we were on, but different in it's history and details. It was told to us that Etch was looking for people like us.

While walking back to our cells, Ada whispered to us that we should make a run for it and that he would aid us since we were honorable and saved his life several times. We agreed to discuss the matter and considered our options which were steal horses and run, sneak out on foot and run, haggle with the witch for a deal, or stand our ground and meet with Etch. These discussions lasted a couple nights, and in that time, we found ourselves trapped in the town by a magic circle of some sort. Feeling trapped and held hostage by magic, Taye contacted the hag telepathically against our wishes to forge a deal. She gave us a profane way of breaking the circle that involved ritual magic and blood sacrifice. Several of us refused to be a part of the process, so we decided to wait for Etch. While waiting, we fully healed and recovered all lost ability scores.

Upon Etch's arrival, he met with us in our cells and engaged in conversation. Gareth recognized him as the true Etch from Habololy, but his mind is clearly enscorceled or drained of knowledge in some capacity, although he's clearly fighting it every step of the way. The group realizes the GoLK is involved since we're able to retain our memories here, but that doesn't bring us any closer to getting home.

Etch and Gareth would proceed to discuss for several hours who they do and don't remember. Gareth mentions all our deities, heroes, and people/events of note throughout several hundred years of Habololian history. Etch rattles off who he knows and remembers and his list is essentially everyone who vanished or was vanquished from Habololy. Only Dedestroyt seems to make both lists as death seems to be one of the only conduits the GoLK can't fully control.

The conversation continues for hours and Etch reveals he wants to go to Habololy as he feels compelled to get off this current world. His memories go back roughly two and a half decades when he arrived here. Upon arrival, he fought and killed a Gnome named Gneon who piloted a sophisticated flying machine. He stole a map of the current world from him and took over as warlord since Gneon held that title before Etch.   

Etch asked Os if he could cast Gate since that seems the only method of escape. He revealed that the hag is only capable of transporting people within the realms of this world, but not the powerful magic of true escape. Since Os can't Gate, we're not sure what to do. It was then that Etch mentioned he's unable to get to certain places in this world; the most notable a major city at the northern most part of the world. He had no explanation as to why he couldn't get there other than he simply couldn't. He also mentioned that the "Sun Elves" who live west of where we are beyond the Great Forest have access to powerful magic. He tried threatening them in the past to get what he needs, but they resisted him and now won't work with him.

It seems our goal is now to make our way to the land of the Sun Elves and eventually to this mystery city in order to escape this pocket realm. This, of course, is assuming we make it out of our conversation with Etch alive.   
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Windblade on May 08, 2024, 07:32:05 AM
Moved my What's app message:

Taye shouts out I got it.  I know where we are.  We are in the Realm of the GOLK. Everything that gets lost on Habololy comes here.  That is why this places makes you want to kill things because when something dies here the GOLK becomes more powerful. Also, the reason why the orcs are in the mist because the old ORC protects them. 
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 08:25:35 AM
Moved my What's app message:

Taye shouts out I got it.  I know where we are.  We are in the Realm of the GOLK. Everything that gets lost on Habololy comes here.  That is why this places makes you want to kill things because when something dies here the GOLK becomes more powerful. Also, the reason why the orcs are in the mist because the old ORC protects them.

I assume this revelation is shouted during your conversation with Etch and is triggered by what you are learning from him.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 08:26:00 AM
Terlus looks at Taye and tries to process what he said.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Windblade on May 08, 2024, 08:28:13 AM
Yes that is fine.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 08:29:51 AM
Taye shouts out I got it.  I know where we are.  We are in the Realm of the GOLK. Everything that gets lost on Habololy comes here.  That is why this places makes you want to kill things because when something dies here the GOLK becomes more powerful. Also, the reason why the orcs are in the mist because the old ORC protects them.

Etch looks at you, stares in some shock as no one interrupts him in that manner.  He then tries to think about what you said.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Windblade on May 08, 2024, 08:36:07 AM
Etch looks at you, stares in some shock as no one interrupts him in that manner.  He then tries to think about what you said.

I apologize great warrior Etch for the interruption.  I was just excited to have this revelation.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Zunder on May 08, 2024, 08:48:48 AM
Maybe it's the Orcs style of ancestor calling their births that keeps the history fresh that protect them.  So maybe not direct intervention, but culturally.  Seems more his style.

I would expect that if we are in the realm of the God who Hates Knowledge then my book on the breeding of species would be anti to this place. ( She looks for the book )

Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 01:06:45 PM
"Hoatami Astar was the Shogun of this land.  I defeated him in combat and now there are only Daimyo."
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 01:11:40 PM
"Gindale Gret III is the king of the gnomes who live north of the sun elves."
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 01:13:32 PM
"The ruler of the island dwarves is Hikoene, he is the Hierophant of Level."
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Zunder on May 08, 2024, 04:15:29 PM
Akrah scatches her large head..

"Are people here.. only made up of the population of people that are made up of those on Habololy.  So.. Gindale Gret should have lived with us, but is here for whatever reason.  The same with Hoatami, etc. "
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Windblade on May 08, 2024, 04:52:24 PM
Akrah scatches her large head..

"Are people here.. only made up of the population of people that are made up of those on Habololy.  So.. Gindale Gret should have lived with us, but is here for whatever reason.  The same with Hoatami, etc. "

I haven't figured that out yet.  I assume people are taken from Habololy and brought here and are forgotten on Habololy.  So I think some of the population is people from Habololy but I also assume some of the population here is from people who were born here.  As we know Ada has kids.  Assuming their memories weren't alter in someway then we have to assume that people here give birth here and have kids here.  So the population is made up of people stolen from Habololy over the millennia and their descendants.  These also could be mixed with people who were natives to this world but I am not sure how to determine that.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Hero on May 08, 2024, 10:03:11 PM
Akrah scatches her large head..

"Are people here.. only made up of the population of people that are made up of those on Habololy.  So.. Gindale Gret should have lived with us, but is here for whatever reason.  The same with Hoatami, etc. "
Does anyone recognize any of those names? Yoshi could make a knowledge history or nobility check, if necessary.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 10:14:27 PM
Does anyone recognize any of those names? Yoshi could make a knowledge history or nobility check, if necessary.

Go ahead
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Hero on May 08, 2024, 10:20:56 PM
…She gave us a profane way of breaking the circle that involved ritual magic and blood sacrifice.
Another puzzle piece: Yoshi’s first divination indicated we would have to sacrifice one of the party to get back to Habololy. The hag suggested there was a group ritual way to cast a Dispel Magic with the appropriate components and a minor(?) blood sacrifice. Perhaps the divination was hinting at a way to group ritual cast Gate as a way to get home at a very high cost.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Hero on May 08, 2024, 10:36:13 PM
Go ahead
Can I cast Lore of the Gods (https://dndtools.net/spells/complete-champion--57/lore-of-the-gods--604/) first (+10 insight to know checks for 110 min) and then Take 10 on my knowledge history check? That would give me a result of 10+20+10=40.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 10:47:13 PM
Can I cast Lore of the Gods (https://dndtools.net/spells/complete-champion--57/lore-of-the-gods--604/) first (+10 insight to know checks for 110 min) and then Take 10 on my knowledge history check? That would give me a result of 10+20+10=40.

For which one?
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Hero on May 08, 2024, 10:56:13 PM
For which one?
Each one. The spell does not discharge.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 11:24:53 PM
"The term they use is Nesut, it means king or similar.  Nesut Kahemweset Astarion, the ruler of the sun elves."

Yoshi knows nothing of a monarchy by this name.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 11:25:38 PM
"Hoatami Astar was the Shogun of this land.  I defeated him in combat and now there are only Daimyo."

Astar is the name of the first Yellowian dynasty.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 11:26:50 PM
"Gindale Gret III is the king of the gnomes who live north of the sun elves."

Gret is the name of the gnomish dynasty that rules the Plateau between the end of Amat and the rise of the Tinkocracy.  There was a Gindale, but only a 1st.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 11:27:15 PM
"The ruler of the island dwarves is Hikoene, he is the Hierophant of Level."

Yoshi knows nothing of this name.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2024, 11:29:25 PM
Etch says, there is a female dark elf in the jungle to the south named Iaestevlia.  She is a witch of the spider queen.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: whitesword on May 09, 2024, 10:45:33 PM
Gareth says: “Something about this makes no sense. Lord Etch isn’t some obscure figure from history. He’s one of the most renowned warriors on Habololy. Something else is at work here.”
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Malchia on May 10, 2024, 07:24:53 AM
This may seem unorthodox, and I realize Lord Etch is evil, but perhaps we should ask him if he's aware of the GoLK. Since we're able to retain our memories in this world, maybe Etch will have some insight that we don't. As far as we all know, this is new to us, but Yoshi has apparently been trying to tell us about this menace for quite some time to no avail. His connection to The Oldest Orc seems to protect him. It's virtually impossible to fight an adversary that we can't remember and have no means of realizing even exists, but at least here we can form a strategy. I'm not entirely sure where we are, but I agree with Gareth in that there's definitely something more at play than a pocket universe. If it is some sort of prison or cosmic hiding spot for GoLK, then making others aware and spreading knowledge of it would be it's undoing. We just need to figure out how to do that while we still have the ability to remember things.   
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 10, 2024, 09:03:09 AM
This may seem unorthodox, and I realize Lord Etch is evil, but perhaps we should ask him if he's aware of the GoLK. Since we're able to retain our memories in this world, maybe Etch will have some insight that we don't. As far as we all know, this is new to us, but Yoshi has apparently been trying to tell us about this menace for quite some time to no avail. His connection to The Oldest Orc seems to protect him. It's virtually impossible to fight an adversary that we can't remember and have no means of realizing even exists, but at least here we can form a strategy. I'm not entirely sure where we are, but I agree with Gareth in that there's definitely something more at play than a pocket universe. If it is some sort of prison or cosmic hiding spot for GoLK, then making others aware and spreading knowledge of it would be it's undoing. We just need to figure out how to do that while we still have the ability to remember things.

Note that Etch, unlike virtually everyone else you have encountered, understands your common and other languages you speak, so when do you say this?

Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Asinjin on May 10, 2024, 09:06:09 AM
RECAP
The group met with the Daimyo after a night of restoration and recovery in their cells. He basically told us the offer to collect the lost "spectacles" was off and that he had a new deal for us. He would summon the warlord of the lands and we would do as he pleased. The warlord, Etch, was familiar with people who were from another world similar to the one we were on, but different in it's history and details. It was told to us that Etch was looking for people like us.

While walking back to our cells, Ada whispered to us that we should make a run for it and that he would aid us since we were honorable and saved his life several times. We agreed to discuss the matter and considered our options which were steal horses and run, sneak out on foot and run, haggle with the witch for a deal, or stand our ground and meet with Etch. These discussions lasted a couple nights, and in that time, we found ourselves trapped in the town by a magic circle of some sort. Feeling trapped and held hostage by magic, Taye contacted the hag telepathically against our wishes to forge a deal. She gave us a profane way of breaking the circle that involved ritual magic and blood sacrifice. Several of us refused to be a part of the process, so we decided to wait for Etch. While waiting, we fully healed and recovered all lost ability scores.

Upon Etch's arrival, he met with us in our cells and engaged in conversation. Gareth recognized him as the true Etch from Habololy, but his mind is clearly enscorceled or drained of knowledge in some capacity, although he's clearly fighting it every step of the way. The group realizes the GoLK is involved since we're able to retain our memories here, but that doesn't bring us any closer to getting home.

Etch and Gareth would proceed to discuss for several hours who they do and don't remember. Gareth mentions all our deities, heroes, and people/events of note throughout several hundred years of Habololian history. Etch rattles off who he knows and remembers and his list is essentially everyone who vanished or was vanquished from Habololy. Only Dedestroyt seems to make both lists as death seems to be one of the only conduits the GoLK can't fully control.

The conversation continues for hours and Etch reveals he wants to go to Habololy as he feels compelled to get off this current world. His memories go back roughly two and a half decades when he arrived here. Upon arrival, he fought and killed a Gnome named Gneon who piloted a sophisticated flying machine. He stole a map of the current world from him and took over as warlord since Gneon held that title before Etch.   

Etch asked Os if he could cast Gate since that seems the only method of escape. He revealed that the hag is only capable of transporting people within the realms of this world, but not the powerful magic of true escape. Since Os can't Gate, we're not sure what to do. It was then that Etch mentioned he's unable to get to certain places in this world; the most notable a major city at the northern most part of the world. He had no explanation as to why he couldn't get there other than he simply couldn't. He also mentioned that the "Sun Elves" who live west of where we are beyond the Great Forest have access to powerful magic. He tried threatening them in the past to get what he needs, but they resisted him and now won't work with him.

It seems our goal is now to make our way to the land of the Sun Elves and eventually to this mystery city in order to escape this pocket realm. This, of course, is assuming we make it out of our conversation with Etch alive.   

Recap xp: 400
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Malchia on May 10, 2024, 09:31:02 AM
Note that Etch, unlike virtually everyone else you have encountered, understands your common and other languages you speak, so when do you say this?
At some point during our conversation with him, I'll mention it when an opportunity presents itself. Likely during Gareth's recounting of notable names, events, and places.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Windblade on May 10, 2024, 12:58:12 PM
This may seem unorthodox, and I realize Lord Etch is evil, but perhaps we should ask him if he's aware of the GoLK. Since we're able to retain our memories in this world, maybe Etch will have some insight that we don't. As far as we all know, this is new to us, but Yoshi has apparently been trying to tell us about this menace for quite some time to no avail. His connection to The Oldest Orc seems to protect him. It's virtually impossible to fight an adversary that we can't remember and have no means of realizing even exists, but at least here we can form a strategy. I'm not entirely sure where we are, but I agree with Gareth in that there's definitely something more at play than a pocket universe. If it is some sort of prison or cosmic hiding spot for GoLK, then making others aware and spreading knowledge of it would be it's undoing. We just need to figure out how to do that while we still have the ability to remember things.

Yes it would make sense that the pocket universe of the GOLK be a hiding place for everything that was taken from Habololy.  I don't know what the something extra would be there.  Also to what Garreth said.  I don't think we can determine what is here by whether they are "prominent" or not in Habololy.  Have you asked everyone on Habololy if they know Etch and of course not is the answer but just Etch was well known to you doesn't mean that he continues to be "well known" on Habololy because as we experienced large portion of people can lose the same memories.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Hero on May 10, 2024, 03:19:01 PM
Gareth, you mentioned many prominent figures on Habololy had been replaced with imposters…what happened to the fakes?
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: Malchia on May 10, 2024, 03:28:51 PM
Gareth, you mentioned many prominent figures on Habololy had been replaced with imposters…what happened to the fakes?
We could really use one of those golden needles right about now...
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: whitesword on May 12, 2024, 03:08:53 PM
Yes it would make sense that the pocket universe of the GOLK be a hiding place for everything that was taken from Habololy.  I don't know what the something extra would be there.  Also to what Garreth said.  I don't think we can determine what is here by whether they are "prominent" or not in Habololy.  Have you asked everyone on Habololy if they know Etch and of course not is the answer but just Etch was well known to you doesn't mean that he continues to be "well known" on Habololy because as we experienced large portion of people can lose the same memories.

I don’t think known by everyone is the issue, but Etch isn’t “well known to me”, he’s one of the most famous warriors of the last two hundred years. My point is everyone else that’s been mentioned is relatively unknown, and none of Etch’s peers appear to be known here.
Title: Re: The Choice Was Etch
Post by: whitesword on May 12, 2024, 03:10:40 PM
Gareth, you mentioned many prominent figures on Habololy had been replaced with imposters…what happened to the fakes?

Some were killed in a battle to save them but the others eventually returned to their prior roles. Many were members of the Kingdom’s government.