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Falan / Pacyr Campaign => Return to the Plateau => Topic started by: Asinjin on March 26, 2015, 11:42:44 PM
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To start, xp:
For tracking down and finishing the weakened vampire, everyone gets 1400xp.
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After the dust settles and before Gneon tells us about the new threat we face, I ask Harrick if I can use his locate person item to help find my wife. I ask Finn if he can try to scry her.
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The current date is 30/3/786
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Can someone post for Tuco and Sly how much their share of the coin is?
Those two are recovered by the time the report of the next undead threat comes in to Gneon.
If there is anything you want to purchase with your coin, lets try and get that done on the boards.
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Can someone post for Tuco and Sly how much their share of the coin is?
16,800 gc each
After I ask Finn if he can try to scry her.
I will try my best. Tell me about her. What is her name? What does she look like? Do you have a picture of her, or something that belongs to her?
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As we only have one day before our next call to action, Harris just follows Finn and Marstan around. If I get a chance to speak with Gneon I ask him how much it would cost to go up in the blimp to survey for ground suitable for what Harris has in mind.
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If I get a chance to speak with Gneon I ask him how much it would cost to go up in the blimp to survey for ground suitable for what Harris has in mind.
Gneon responds, "You may come with us when we do our next survey of the area in a month or so. No charge."
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The current date is 30/3/786
What was the date when we started with these characters?
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I will try my best. Tell me about her. What is her name? What does she look like? Do you have a picture of her, or something that belongs to her?
I give you all the information you need when we're in private. It's difficult for Marston to speak of her due to the nature of her abduction. I have personal effects of hers that you can use for purposes of scrying.
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On a side note, I make sure to give the Gnomish woman who was turned, then killed a proper burial. I follow up with the constables to see if they had any luck finding her husband who was charmed and sent out of the house where we found the vampire. When found, I make sure to offer whatever assistance I can to help him through his loss. I make sure to tell him we slayed the vampire to help ease his suffering.
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What was the date when we started with these characters?
I made a mistake, the current date is the 30th day of the 3rd month of 787.
The characters were first approached in Grimhold about going to Mydir on the 1st day of the 10th month of 785.
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On a side note, I make sure to give the Gnomish woman who was turned, then killed a proper burial. I follow up with the constables to see if they had any luck finding her husband who was charmed and sent out of the house where we found the vampire. When found, I make sure to offer whatever assistance I can to help him through his loss. I make sure to tell him we slayed the vampire to help ease his suffering.
They do find him, along with others that had been charmed. They don't have time to give you a report before you head out on the new mission.
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After the dust settles and before Gneon tells us about the new threat we face, I ask Harrick if I can use his locate person item to help find my wife. I ask Finn if he can try to scry her.
yeah.. sure.. But it's only got about a 10 minute walk range. And I've used it.. so you have to wait a week.
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A reminder to think about and spend your coin if you want.
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It was asked last time, so here is detail.
The city's bank is named Grim Holdings, clearly a name that indicates it was founded by gnomes. There are three locations.
The main location near the center of the city, which is newer as it replaced an old shrine of Lakius only a few years ago. Much of the structure remains, but the additions are making the original purpose less and less recognizable.
There are two other locations. The original one is on the south side of town, but it has become the least used in the past year. This is because the western location services the newly constructed city parts and all of the settlers.
The banks are considered very secure, and are known to have anti-incorporeal measures in place (as many joke, because everyone knows how much ghosts care about coin). They have deals with the closest cities, and also service nearby towns that don't have such a protected place.
The banks are known to be flush with coin, as Grimhold has run a surplus for years because of its energy production. The owner, who is the son of the founder, is named Vigil Gnevrpoor. The chief of security is a well known older human with a big mustache named Vernon Kalestagl. He retired from the constables to work security for the bank, because it pays better. His departure and the reason for it were a big story when it happened years ago.
Rumor has it that the bank, in conjunction with the mayor's office, is planning to start minting their own currency if the current project with the lands of the skull lord goes well.
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Vigil Gnevrpoor
Best...Gnome name...ever...
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Thank you.
Grim Holdings also serves as the delivery center of documents that need to be sent to other towns and cities.
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A note for those not from Grimhold:
For Harris and Tuco, the level of integrated and smoothly operating technology is impressive. It goes against the ideas that you have heard that this much technology is dangerous and bound to explode. In your weeks here, you notions of what this would be like are certainly altered.
For Sly and Finn, Grimhold operates better than other places on the plateau you are used to and it makes you wonder what it different here that makes things work better.
For Harrick, you wonder why they bother with all this tech, when they could just use undead to do everything.
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Harrick gets it.. its convenience.. just like not having to walk if you don't want to. Technology is a tool, so are the undead. Though, undead are cheaper to make, don't blow up unless directed. People just need to get over their fears....
I would fear a mugger with technology more then I would fear a goodly controlled undead.
Just think about it.. two skeletal horses could plow a field night and day.. with no food, no poo, and no complaining.
A note for those not from Grimhold:
For Harris and Tuco, the level of integrated and smoothly operating technology is impressive. It goes against the ideas that you have heard that this much technology is dangerous and bound to explode. In your weeks here, you notions of what this would be like are certainly altered.
For Sly and Finn, Grimhold operates better than other places on the plateau you are used to and it makes you wonder what it different here that makes things work better.
For Harrick, you wonder why they bother with all this tech, when they could just use undead to do everything.
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I give you all the information you need when we're in private. It's difficult for Marston to speak of her due to the nature of her abduction. I have personal effects of hers that you can use for purposes of scrying.
You find that Finn is very easy to talk to, compassionate, and genuinely concerned over your plight. I'll scry daily in the time available.
Harrick gets it.. its convenience.. just like not having to walk if you don't want to. Technology is a tool, so are the undead. Though, undead are cheaper to make, don't blow up unless directed. People just need to get over their fears....
I would fear a mugger with technology more then I would fear a goodly controlled undead.
Just think about it.. two skeletal horses could plow a field night and day.. with no food, no poo, and no complaining.
Except that the creation of undead is an inherently evil act. Look it up in any religious or arcane text. Makes a mockery of the natural cycle of life and is a slap in the face of the Creators.
And while I (reluctantly) agree that undead could be controlled to do a "good" deed, if left uncontrolled undeath always actively seeks to harm life. They gravitate towards inflicting pain and suffering on the living. It's in their nature. They are not tools. A tool is a scythe that is picked up, swung to cut the grass, and then set back down until it is needed again. When it is ignored, it does not leap up on it's own and try to cut you just to make you bleed.
Regardless of how you rationalize it, you are on a slippery slope that will ultimately lead to more vile acts.
Says an uncharacteristically serious Finn.
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The more "Advanced" the tool.. the more inherent the dangers. I mean if anyone understands that it's the technologists on the plateau. A Scyth can't plow a field when a town is sick with the flu, my creations can! Imaging skeletal nurses treating the sick when there is a pestilence.. And.. I don't believe that creating undead is a evil act.. it's just creating a construct that runs on negative energy. The texts both religious and arcane or stodgy and old fashioned. Written by people long ago.. if everyone followed texts written long ago I believe that you good cleric (pointing at Finn) would be required to stand here and destroy all amazing technology.
I will.. concede that there is a slight problem that without control they sorta go off on their own.. that's why I haven't been creating powerful tools. I've been working on this problem, it would be nice if they poof.. if I lose control.
You find that Finn is very easy to talk to, compassionate, and genuinely concerned over your plight. I'll scry daily in the time available.
Except that the creation of undead is an inherently evil act. Look it up in any religious or arcane text. Makes a mockery of the natural cycle of life and is a slap in the face of the Creators.
And while I (reluctantly) agree that undead could be controlled to do a "good" deed, if left uncontrolled undeath always actively seeks to harm life. They gravitate towards inflicting pain and suffering on the living. It's in their nature. They are not tools. A tool is a scythe that is picked up, swung to cut the grass, and then set back down until it is needed again. When it is ignored, it does not leap up on it's own and try to cut you just to make you bleed.
Regardless of how you rationalize it, you are on a slippery slope that will ultimately lead to more vile acts.
Says an uncharacteristically serious Finn.
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You find that Finn is very easy to talk to, compassionate, and genuinely concerned over your plight. I'll scry daily in the time available.
Your effort of scrying comes back with no result. Do you have any spellcraft ranks?
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Your effort of scrying comes back with no result. Do you have any spellcraft ranks?
Yes. Total spell craft check is +7.
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Yes. Total spell craft check is +7.
Total of 16 tells you it is not being blocked. It could be that she is dead, or some other reasons (such as a dead magic area).
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Total of 16 tells you it is not being blocked. It could be that she is dead, or some other reasons (such as a dead magic area).
I try daily, varying the time of day each time.
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I try daily, varying the time of day each time.
The results are the same every time you try.
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The results are the same every time you try.
Marston, where there any others you know of that were taken at the same time as your wife?
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Marston, where there any others you know of that were taken at the same time as your wife?
There were others taken around the same time as my wife, but not exactly the same time. She was taken purposely and separately from all the others. With a heavy heart, Marston quietly tells you that she was pregnant at the time of her abduction.
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The more "Advanced" the tool.. the more inherent the dangers. I mean if anyone understands that it's the technologists on the plateau. A Scyth can't plow a field when a town is sick with the flu, my creations can! Imaging skeletal nurses treating the sick when there is a pestilence.. And.. I don't believe that creating undead is a evil act.. it's just creating a construct that runs on negative energy. The texts both religious and arcane or stodgy and old fashioned. Written by people long ago.. if everyone followed texts written long ago I believe that you good cleric (pointing at Finn) would be required to stand here and destroy all amazing technology.
I will.. concede that there is a slight problem that without control they sorta go off on their own.. that's why I haven't been creating powerful tools. I've been working on this problem, it would be nice if they poof.. if I lose control.
It's not very polite to point. The undead are not the same as technology. Clickers are not inherently vile and can exist in balance with life. Technology is not created from the earthly remains of a sentient creature. Nor do they whittle away at the soul of the tinkers that create them.
Undead are categorically evil. Cast a detect evil spell on any undead and tell me what you see. The goodly deities do not allow their clerics to create them. The church of Falan has even sought to distance themselves from the undeath aspect of their religion, as I'm sure you are aware, and even have a group dedicated to eradicating the undead from the faith.
If you can justify the creation of undead based on their utility, what's next? Summoning devils and demons?
"Slippery slopes lead to muddy waters," as my wife is fond of saying.
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There were others taken around the same time as my wife, but not exactly the same time. She was taken purposely and separately from all the others. With a heavy heart, Marston quietly tells you that she was pregnant at the time of her abduction.
Finn pulls you in and gives you a hug that lasts about 5 sec too long. Note that he smells very much like topsoil. "We'll find them."
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On another note, word spreads that the vampire Gnoah has been killed. You all see a poster get put up praising those that destroyed it...called Marston's Destroyers. THe poster has a picture of a duster-clad human in silhouette with several figures not in much detail flanking him.
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Another note, because I don't know if I have ever noted this explicitly. The city of Grimhold is on the northern part of the plateau.
The closest city, to the west, is Nomsincherg. That is where the temple of Falan, the Bulwark is located. It is roughly three days west.
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Harrick slides his Vienna Sausage fingers over so blotchy red skin around his neck and sighs...
"Any Arcane or Divine creation whittle away at the soul of it's creator.. it's the cost of creation. I can only assume the gods as they be didn't want people to go crazy and had to inflict a cost" .. He raises a roasted chicken wing that was stored securely in the cushion of his chair, and strips the meat from the bone with slightly rounded teeth worn from use.. He speaks.. with his mouth full..
" Undead are only seen as evil because they are powered by negative energy. If I was able to power a bone construct with the energy of angles it would show up as good. However.. I would never suck energy from goodly creatures to power something. That would be Evil. I instead choose to power my creations with evil energy.. therefore stealing some of the power of evil.. Making them weaker " he pauses quivering slightly.. happy at the point he just made.. Stripping a second chicken leg. "I'm very happy for the goodly deities to admonish the creation of Undead. Most of the clerics out there aren't up to standards one needs to be to create them safely. Just like a gunsmith.. you don't want a Average Gnoe creating guns, the goodly powers just don't waste their time putting that into scripture. And I'm all for destroying undead that is being used for evil, or is self aware, or uncontrolled. Just like I would be ok with taking clickers, or swords away from those that have used them for evil. My Argument is that Undead, when used carefully and by a qualified purveyor of undead tools can have a greater good then a simple clicker."
Harrick bits into a fluffy butterscotch iced cake with bacon slices inside.. and smiles triumphantly at Finn..
It's not very polite to point. The undead are not the same as technology. Clickers are not inherently vile and can exist in balance with life. Technology is not created from the earthly remains of a sentient creature. Nor do they whittle away at the soul of the tinkers that create them.
Undead are categorically evil. Cast a detect evil spell on any undead and tell me what you see. The goodly deities do not allow their clerics to create them. The church of Falan has even sought to distance themselves from the undeath aspect of their religion, as I'm sure you are aware, and even have a group dedicated to eradicating the undead from the faith.
If you can justify the creation of undead based on their utility, what's next? Summoning devils and demons?
"Slippery slopes lead to muddy waters," as my wife is fond of saying.
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My Argument is that Undead, when used carefully and by a qualified purveyor of undead tools can have a greater good then a simple clicker."
Creating undead brings evil into the world, even if used for the greater good.
I think you walk a dangerous path.
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Creating undead brings evil into the world, even if used for the greater good.
I think you walk a dangerous path.
... I'd prefer to think of it as a path less traveled..or .. maybe the more.. chaotic path...
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Posting xp:
Marston - 30
Harris - 5
Finn and Harrick for your spirited debate - 75 each