Vision Domain

[Asinjin]

Range is only a factor in that you have to first use the Spot check to see your target, which is a lot easier than hitting an AC.  Once you see the target, then range is not a factor in your Spot attack roll.

[Zunder]

Range is only a factor in that you have to first use the Spot check to see your target, which is a lot easier than hitting an AC.  Once you see the target, then range is not a factor in your Spot attack roll.

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I still don't think you should over do the vision non-combat spells. as they are redundant

[Asinjin]

Zunder, you want to use your neat website and come up with a spell list for this domain?

[Asinjin]

Here are spells for levels 1-5, need 6th through 9th.

1st Arrow Mind (CA)
2nd Arrow Rain (MoH)
3rd Vision of the Omniscient Eye (DrM)
4th Arrow Storm (CA)
5th Melf's Slumber Arrows (CM)

[Zunder]

Here are spells for levels 1-5, need 6th through 9th.

1st Arrow Mind (CA)
2nd Arrow Rain (MoH)
3rd Vision of the Omniscient Eye (DrM)
4th Arrow Storm (CA)
5th Melf's Slumber Arrows (CM)

6th Arrow of Bone - necro.. +4 arrow fort save or die  not really TT but it's there. Or   Fiery Vision (link)
7th this doesn't make sense...Vision (link)
8th Prismatic Bow (link)
9th


Additional Items for Thought:
spell slayer arrow 2nd
bane bow 4th
sniper's Eye 4th


I would also argue for "Hunter's Mercy" for level 1.  Or Hunter's Eye

[Asinjin]

For 1st level, I went with the one that was least violent.  But we can discuss.

I thought Arrow Rain for 2nd was more widely useful than Spell Slayer Arrow.

Arrow Storm vs Bane Bow vs Sniper's Eye I think is just personal preference, once again we can discuss.

Fiery Vision and Prismatic Bow for now work.

Still need a 7th and 9th.

[Hero]

I like Raptor's Sight from Races of the Wild for the #1 spot. Gain +5 on Spot checks, range increment penalty halved.

There's also Eyes of the Avoral from BoED, I think.

[Asinjin]

Lots of good 1st level choices, I will let Zunder make the final call, as he is the ranking cleric of Treetop.

[Zunder]

I also like this for second level Brilliant Energy Arrow

[Zunder]

How about this


1 - Raptors Sight or Guided Shot
2 - Brilliant Energy Arrow
3 - Melf's Unicorn Arrow or maybe Blessed Sight
4 - Arrow Storm
5 - True Seeing or Melf's Slumber Arrow
6 - Brilliant Blade - or Arrow of Bone or Firey Vision or Dream Sight
7 - Power Word Blind
8 - Prismatic Bow
9 - Forsight

Brilliant Blade has a section for arrow in there. 
that would be seeing stuff  4, and arrow stuff 5.

[Hero]

DM, you said you wanted this to apply to Tepfershot as well, who would have firearms/epbuls as a favored weapon, right?

If so, some of these spells might not make sense. Like Arrow Storm wouldn't be very useful to someone wielding a pistol.

[Asinjin]

Yes, you are correct, I forgot.  So when there is an option, let's go with the spell that can be applied to any ranged attack.

[Zunder]

Yes, you are correct, I forgot.  So when there is an option, let's go with the spell that can be applied to any ranged attack.

Oooch.. that's gonna make it hard.

[whitesword]

I think Raptor's Sight was renamed Hawkeye in the spell compendium.  It applies to all ranged attacks/weapons.

[Asinjin]

Zunder any new thoughts on this one?