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Offline Malchia

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2012, 02:26:55 PM »
It's not really too much to have both feats at 1st when you really think about it.  Cleave is only useful if you fell an opponent.  You then get the extra attack to take another shot.  If you happen to kill another opponent and actually use Great Cleave, more power to you, but it's unlikely that these feats could be abused that early on with such a low BAB.  Not only that, but Asinjin makes a good point that few Clerics would go down that feat tree.  Even if they do, they still need the prerequisites for those additional feats regardless. 

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2012, 04:36:43 PM »
I think that even among clerics of War, it would be a small minority that go down that feat tree.  With Divine feats being useful and a lack of feats in general.

We could move to Cleave and a skill bonus, but I think the modified Great Cleave is neater than a skill bonus.

I agree with this too.  I might not need to post anymore on this DM is wording much better then I could.

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2012, 04:46:21 PM »
Another reason that I think it is better to do the modified great cleave other then I think it is overpowered to just give give the feats is because I don't believe a cleric, even one of the war, should be as good or better then I fighter in this aspect of fighting without at least spending his own feats or skill points etc.  I think having a power that mimics great cleave but that comes from the deities and can only be in effect for a limited period of times is more representative of a cleric fighting ability and how his power comes from his deity.

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2012, 05:00:25 PM »
Just give them Cleave and the skill bonus.

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2012, 05:15:02 PM »
I think we should vote between the modified great cleave and cleave and a skill bonus.

I vote for modified great cleave because just cleave in a war situation doesn't show the power of a deity of war.

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #65 on: April 21, 2012, 08:54:08 PM »
I also vote for Cleave and modified great cleave.

Other votes?
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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #66 on: April 21, 2012, 09:20:22 PM »
I also vote for Cleave and modified great cleave.

Other votes?

Agreed

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2012, 11:20:30 AM »

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2012, 01:14:34 PM »
That's 4-1.

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #69 on: April 23, 2012, 08:54:10 AM »
1 Tactical Precision
2 Battle Hymn (SpC)
3 Stand Firm (tFoW)
4 Warcry (CA)
5 Drums of War (HoB)
6 Vigorous Circle
7 Righteous Wrath of the Faithful
8 Shadow Landscape
9 Tides of Battle (MoR)

Granted Power: Cleave and modified Great Cleave.

Locked tomorrow unless anyone has an objection.
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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #70 on: April 23, 2012, 10:48:47 AM »
1 Tactical Precision
2 Battle Hymn (SpC)
3 Stand Firm (tFoW)
4 Warcry (CA)
5 Drums of War (HoB)
6 Vigorous Circle
7 Righteous Wrath of the Faithful
8 Shadow Landscape
9 Tides of Battle (MoR)

Granted Power: Cleave and modified Great Cleave.

Locked tomorrow unless anyone has an objection.
The voting on Legion's Conviction vs Stand Firm got overrun by the other discussion. At the time it was 1-0 for Legion's (mass) conviction

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #71 on: April 23, 2012, 10:54:21 AM »
Thank you,  I vote for Stand Firm, so its 1-1.  Other votes please.
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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2012, 04:42:46 PM »
I vote for Mass Conviction.  Also, would you be able to explain how exactly the modified Great Cleave is going to work?  If Ikraam goes with this domain, it may change the way I have his feats laid out. 

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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2012, 07:44:57 PM »
The granted power is Cleave and an ability that mimics Great Cleave, although there is a limit to the number of 'cleaves' per round.  Great Cleave the feat has no limit.
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Re: The New War Domain
« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2012, 07:50:29 PM »
mass conviction