The New War Domain

[Asinjin]

I don't see any spell on the list that I think necessarily need to stay if we change it.  I am thinking more spells like Mass Status, Ramparts, and spells that are used in a war.

[whitesword]

You could include a divination spell such as augury to assist with strategy.

[Asinjin]

1st - ??
2nd - Battle Line
3rd - Terra Cotta Warrior
4th - War Cry OR Battlefield Fortification
5th - Drums of War
6th - Consecrate / Desecrate Battlefield
7th - Animate Siege Weapon
8th -
9th -

Thoughts?

[whitesword]

1/2 Mass Camouflage OR Tactical Precision 
2 the other of the first two
3 Mass Conviction or Battle Hymn
4 Legion's Aid
5 Mass Longstride
6 Righteous Wrath of the Faithful
7 Wrack the Earth
8 Shadow Battlefield (as the 9th lvl Druid Spell Sh Landscape)
9 Storm of Vengance

Needs a good personal power as many of these spells don't affect the caster.

[whitesword]

I forgot to mention: when i used the Tools site all of the Eberon pages came up empty.  I was searching by rulebook.  All the lists I have posted therefore were made without considering those spells.  If you see some that look good feel free to chime in.  I also only gave OA a cursory look.

[Asinjin]

1 Mass Camouflage OR Tactical Precision 
2 (the other of the first two) OR Battle Line (CoR)
3 Mass Conviction OR Battle Hymn OR Stand Firm (tFoW)
4 Legion's Aid OR Warcry (CA) OR Battlefield Fortification
5 Drums of War (HoB)
6 Righteous Wrath of the Faithful OR Consecrate / Desecrate Battlefield (HoB)
7 Wrack the Earth OR Animate Siege Weapon
8 Shadow Battlefield (as the 9th lvl Druid Spell Sh Landscape) OR Tides of Battle (MoR)
9 Storm of Vengance

This is Dedestroyt's other domain and an overall important one.  Lots of choices, lots of votes needed.

[whitesword]

1 Mass Camouflage OR Tactical Precision 
2 (the other of the first two) OR Battle Line (CoR)
3 Mass Conviction OR Battle Hymn OR Stand Firm (tFoW)
4 Legion's Aid OR Warcry (CA) OR Battlefield Fortification
5 Drums of War (HoB)
6 Righteous Wrath of the Faithful OR Consecrate / Desecrate Battlefield (HoB)
7 Wrack the Earth OR Animate Siege Weapon
8 Shadow Battlefield (as the 9th lvl Druid Spell Sh Landscape) OR Tides of Battle (MoR)
9 Storm of Vengance

This is Dedestroyt's other domain and an overall important one.  Lots of choices, lots of votes needed.

I'm doing this from memory but here are my arguments: Animate Siege Engine is lousy, particularly for a 7th level spell, C/D Battlefield applies after the battle is over and Battlefield Fortification is weaker and less often usable than either of the other two.

[whitesword]

1 Mass Camouflage OR Tactical Precision 
2 (the other of the first two) OR Battle Line (CoR)
3 Mass Conviction OR Battle Hymn OR Stand Firm (tFoW)
4 Legion's Aid OR Warcry (CA) OR Battlefield Fortification
5 Drums of War (HoB)
6 Righteous Wrath of the Faithful OR Consecrate / Desecrate Battlefield (HoB)
7 Wrack the Earth OR Animate Siege Weapon
8 Shadow Battlefield (as the 9th lvl Druid Spell Sh Landscape) OR Tides of Battle (MoR)
9 Storm of Vengance

This is Dedestroyt's other domain and an overall important one.  Lots of choices, lots of votes needed.

My votes are: both of the first as 1 and 2, Mass Conviction (the other two are terrible), Warcry, RWF, Wrack the Earth, and both the eighth, one as 8 and other as 9.

[Asinjin]

Other opinions?

Also need the domain ability.

[Malchia]

Power: All domain spells and spells cast with the war or battle descriptor add a +2 DC.  In addition, all skill checks involving military tactics or battle strategy add +2 (Knowledge: Military Tactics, Knowledge: Warfare, Diplomacy, and Intimidate). 

1 - Battle Lines
2 - Mass Camouflage
3 - Mass Conviction
4 - Warcry
5 - Drums of War
6 - Righteous Wrath of the Faithful
7 - Wrack Earth
8 - Shadow Battlefield
9 - Storm of Vengeance

[Asinjin]

The problem with that granted power is that the number of clerical spells with the war or battle descriptor is so small that I think it would not get used often enough.

Still need more votes on the spell choices.

[Windblade]

Battle line seems fine for 2nd.  Mass Camouflage is a 4the spell and Tactical Precision is a 2nd level spell so not sure why they are options for the 1st level spell slot.  I can't seem to find any of the spells in the 3rd level slot. 4th level I can't seem to find legion's aid or battlefield fortification.  I don't like warcry. 6th I like Righteous Wrath of the Faithful.  For 7th I like animate siege weapon.  I can't find the spells for 8th either

1 Mass Camouflage OR Tactical Precision 
2 (the other of the first two) OR Battle Line (CoR)
3 Mass Conviction OR Battle Hymn OR Stand Firm (tFoW)
4 Legion's Aid OR Warcry (CA) OR Battlefield Fortification
5 Drums of War (HoB)
6 Righteous Wrath of the Faithful OR Consecrate / Desecrate Battlefield (HoB)
7 Wrack the Earth OR Animate Siege Weapon
8 Shadow Battlefield (as the 9th lvl Druid Spell Sh Landscape) OR Tides of Battle (MoR)
9 Storm of Vengance

This is Dedestroyt's other domain and an overall important one.  Lots of choices, lots of votes needed.

[Asinjin]

1 Tactical Precision 
2 Battle Line (CoR)
3 Mass Conviction OR Battle Hymn OR Stand Firm (tFoW)
4 Warcry (CA) OR Battlefield Fortification
5 Drums of War (HoB)
6 Righteous Wrath of the Faithful
7 Animate Siege Weapon
8 Wrack the Earth
9 Tides of Battle (MoR)

Note that we are talking about the Complete Adventurer version of Warcry, there are four versions.

[Windblade]

Note that we are talking about the Complete Adventurer version of Warcry, there are four versions.

I like that version

[Malchia]

Here's a thought...what about not having a specific granted ability (or maybe allowing the +2 DC to domain spells), and allowing a cleric who chooses the war domain to be able to choose two spells per cleric level as their bonus spells?  I don't mean they get two bonus spells per day, but instead they can choose one of two spells per spell level on the list.  This might also help the spell selection process as it would allow for more options.

1 - Battle Lines and Tactical Precision
2 - Mass Camouflage and Battle Hymn
3 - Mass Conviction and Stand Firm
4 - Warcry and Battlefield Fortification
5 - Drums of War and Battletide (Player's Guide to Faerûn)
6 - Righteous Wrath of the Faithful and Consecrate/Desecrate Battlefield
7 - Wrack Earth and Animate Siege Weapon
8 - Shadow Battlefield and City's Might (Races of Destiny)
9 - Storm of Vengeance and Tides of Battle