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Title: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 20, 2012, 01:29:44 PM

Need a new domain for Treetop and Tepfershot.  Based on Ranged attacks and vision.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: whitesword on February 20, 2012, 01:48:39 PM

So,

Martial (Spirit)= Unarmed Combat
Vision= Ranged Attacts
Weapons= Armed Combat and Weapon creation

How does that grab you?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 20, 2012, 01:55:04 PM

I like it.  What a rolling Competition into the unarmed combat one?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: whitesword on February 20, 2012, 01:57:19 PM

Quote from: Asinjin on February 20, 2012, 01:55:04 PM

I like it.  What a rolling Competition into the unarmed combat one?

Probably a good idea, might be necessary.

Is there a Keen Edge equivalent for blunt and ranged weapons?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 20, 2012, 02:08:32 PM

Yes for blunt, no for ranged.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Malchia on February 20, 2012, 03:58:37 PM

Maybe not keen edge, but what about that feat that allows an automatic critical for ranged attacks?  I forget what it's called, but that might make a suitable alternative.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 20, 2012, 04:40:55 PM

Quote from: whitesword on February 20, 2012, 01:57:19 PM

Probably a good idea, might be necessary.

Is there a Keen Edge equivalent for blunt and ranged weapons?

According to my new favorite site: ( [size=78%]http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/keen-edge--2828/ (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/keen-edge--2828/)[/size])
Keen Edge works for arrows. 

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 20, 2012, 08:25:39 PM

Hunter's Mercy is the spell that is an auto critical on next hit for ranged.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Hero on February 20, 2012, 10:34:10 PM

You want to make this a domain for ranged combat or sight? Or a combination of both?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 20, 2012, 11:13:20 PM

Combination.  Maybe 4 spells for vision (Darkvision, LowLight Vision), 5 spells for ranged (Hunter's Mercy, Keen)

Maybe granted power: Immune to Blindness caused by magic (Power Word: Blind, etc)

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 20, 2012, 11:15:00 PM

Quote from: Hero on February 20, 2012, 10:34:10 PM

You want to make this a domain for ranged combat or sight? Or a combination of both?

I think it's gonna be both.  Treetop in 2nd edition had the ability to shoot something as far as he could see.  So I think it's bringing back some of that love.  However definitely combat based. Hunter's Mercy is probably a good treetop spell/ability.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 20, 2012, 11:16:49 PM

Quote from: Asinjin on February 20, 2012, 11:13:20 PM

Combination.  Maybe 4 spells for vision (Darkvision, LowLight Vision), 5 spells for ranged (Hunter's Mercy, Keen)

Maybe granted power: Immune to Blindness caused by magic (Power Word: Blind, etc)

I think it needs to be more combat ~8 and ~2 vision.  Cause too many races will have those abilities.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Windblade on February 20, 2012, 11:17:15 PM

I forgot about that ability of Treetop.  I think we need to bring that back to 3e in someone way.  I like the immune to magical blindness granted domain ability but I think that is narrow enough that you can give it a second small ability to go with it.  Like you did with the combat domain.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 21, 2012, 12:34:00 AM

How about for the 2nd half of the granted ability: Once per day per cleric level, the cleric may take a full round action and use his Spot check instead of his normal attack roll to make one attack when using his deity's favored weapon.  No bonuses to hit from a magic weapon, magic ammunition, feats, or any other source apply; unless the bonus adds to the cleric's Spot check.  Penalties to to Spot checks due to distance do not apply to the Spot attack roll, this attack assumes the cleric already can see the target.  If the attack hits, damage is delivered normally.  Critical threat rolls revert to the cleric's normal attack bonus, with range penalties implemented.

In addition, Spot is a class skill.

So by comparison, let's take a 10th level cleric. 

Normal ranged attack roll (BAB+7, Dex+3, Feats+2, Magic+5) = +17

Normal Spot check (Ranks+13, Wis+4, Feats+2, Magic+5) = +24

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 21, 2012, 09:00:22 AM

Quote from: Asinjin on February 21, 2012, 12:34:00 AM

How about for the 2nd half of the granted ability: Once per day per cleric level, the cleric may take a full round action and use his Spot check instead of his normal attack roll to make one attack when using his deity's favored weapon.  No bonuses to hit from a magic weapon, magic ammunition, feats, or any other source apply; unless the bonus adds to the cleric's Spot check.  Penalties to to Spot checks due to distance do not apply to the Spot attack roll, this attack assumes the cleric already can see the target.  If the attack hits, damage is delivered normally.  Critical threat rolls revert to the cleric's normal attack bonus, with range penalties implemented.

In addition, Spot is a class skill.

So by comparison, let's take a 10th level cleric. 

Normal ranged attack roll (BAB+7, Dex+3, Feats+2, Magic+5) = +17

Normal Spot check (Ranks+13, Wis+4, Feats+2, Magic+5) = +24

So, range is not a factor in to hit here?  Then it's good.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 21, 2012, 09:10:16 AM

Range is only a factor in that you have to first use the Spot check to see your target, which is a lot easier than hitting an AC.  Once you see the target, then range is not a factor in your Spot attack roll.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 21, 2012, 12:21:22 PM

Quote from: Asinjin on February 21, 2012, 09:10:16 AM

Range is only a factor in that you have to first use the Spot check to see your target, which is a lot easier than hitting an AC.  Once you see the target, then range is not a factor in your Spot attack roll.

I am Rin, and I approve this message.


I still don't think you should over do the vision non-combat spells. as they are redundant

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 22, 2012, 01:23:33 PM

Zunder, you want to use your neat website and come up with a spell list for this domain?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 22, 2012, 11:46:01 PM

Here are spells for levels 1-5, need 6th through 9th.

1st Arrow Mind (CA)
2nd Arrow Rain (MoH)
3rd Vision of the Omniscient Eye (DrM)
4th Arrow Storm (CA)
5th Melf's Slumber Arrows (CM)

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 23, 2012, 12:51:16 AM

Quote from: Asinjin on February 22, 2012, 11:46:01 PM

Here are spells for levels 1-5, need 6th through 9th.

1st Arrow Mind (CA)
2nd Arrow Rain (MoH)
3rd Vision of the Omniscient Eye (DrM)
4th Arrow Storm (CA)
5th Melf's Slumber Arrows (CM)

6th Arrow of Bone - necro.. +4 arrow fort save or die  not really TT but it's there. Or   Fiery Vision (link (http://dndtools.eu/spells/shining-south--25/fiery-vision--3275/))
7th this doesn't make sense...Vision (link (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/vision--2522/))
8th Prismatic Bow (link (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-bow--830/))
9th


Additional Items for Thought:
spell slayer arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/spellslayer-arrow--294/) 2nd
bane bow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-divine--56/bane-bow--691/) 4th
sniper's Eye (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/snipers-eye--430/) 4th


I would also argue for "Hunter's Mercy" for level 1.  Or Hunter's Eye (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-ii--80/hunters-eye--2941/)

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 23, 2012, 09:08:02 AM

For 1st level, I went with the one that was least violent.  But we can discuss.

I thought Arrow Rain for 2nd was more widely useful than Spell Slayer Arrow.

Arrow Storm vs Bane Bow vs Sniper's Eye I think is just personal preference, once again we can discuss.

Fiery Vision and Prismatic Bow for now work.

Still need a 7th and 9th.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Hero on February 23, 2012, 10:39:48 PM

I like Raptor's Sight from Races of the Wild for the #1 spot. Gain +5 on Spot checks, range increment penalty halved.

There's also Eyes of the Avoral from BoED, I think.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 23, 2012, 10:42:11 PM

Lots of good 1st level choices, I will let Zunder make the final call, as he is the ranking cleric of Treetop.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 24, 2012, 12:52:29 AM

I also like this for second level Brilliant Energy Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/brilliant-energy-arrow--290/)

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 24, 2012, 01:22:36 AM

How about this


1 - Raptors Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/races-of-the-wild--84/raptors-sight--3117/) or Guided Shot (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/power-word-blind--2566/)
2 - Brilliant Energy Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/brilliant-energy-arrow--290/)
3 - Melf's Unicorn Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-ii--80/melfs-unicorn-arrow--2933/) or maybe Blessed Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/book-of-exalted-deeds--52/blessed-sight--36/)
4 - Arrow Storm (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/arrow-storm--412/)
5 - True Seeing (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/true-seeing--2520/) or Melf's Slumber Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/melfs-slumber-arrows--812/)
6 - Brilliant Blade (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-arcane--55/brilliant-blade--537/) - or Arrow of Bone (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-arcane--55/arrow-of-bone--519/) or Firey Vision or Dream Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-divine--56/dream-sight--676/)
7 - Power Word Blind (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/power-word-blind--2566/)
8 - Prismatic Bow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-bow--830/)
9 - Forsight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/foresight--2500/)

Brilliant Blade has a section for arrow in there. 
that would be seeing stuff  4, and arrow stuff 5.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Hero on February 25, 2012, 11:06:45 PM

DM, you said you wanted this to apply to Tepfershot as well, who would have firearms/epbuls as a favored weapon, right?

If so, some of these spells might not make sense. Like Arrow Storm wouldn't be very useful to someone wielding a pistol.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on February 25, 2012, 11:10:39 PM

Yes, you are correct, I forgot.  So when there is an option, let's go with the spell that can be applied to any ranged attack.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on February 26, 2012, 12:49:29 AM

Quote from: Asinjin on February 25, 2012, 11:10:39 PM

Yes, you are correct, I forgot.  So when there is an option, let's go with the spell that can be applied to any ranged attack.

Oooch.. that's gonna make it hard.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: whitesword on February 26, 2012, 02:24:07 PM

I think Raptor's Sight was renamed Hawkeye in the spell compendium.  It applies to all ranged attacks/weapons.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on April 29, 2012, 06:48:31 PM

Zunder any new thoughts on this one?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on May 07, 2012, 12:30:43 PM

Don't like Forsight.. so how about mixing in light spells:

1 - Raptors Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/races-of-the-wild--84/raptors-sight--3117/) or Guided Shot (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/guided-shot--374/)
2 - Brilliant Energy Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/brilliant-energy-arrow--290/)
3 - Melf's Unicorn Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-ii--80/melfs-unicorn-arrow--2933/) or maybe Blessed Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/book-of-exalted-deeds--52/blessed-sight--36/)
4 - Arrow Storm (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/arrow-storm--412/)
5 - True Seeing (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/true-seeing--2520/) or Melf's Slumber Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/melfs-slumber-arrows--812/)
6 - Brilliant Blade (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-arcane--55/brilliant-blade--537/) - or Arrow of Bone (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-arcane--55/arrow-of-bone--519/) or Firey Vision or Dream Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-divine--56/dream-sight--676/) or Prismatic Eye (http://dndtools.eu/spells/magic-of-faerun--20/prismatic-eye--1685/)
7 - Power Word Blind (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/power-word-blind--2566/) or Righteous Glare (http://dndtools.eu/spells/book-of-exalted-deeds--52/righteous-glare--92/)
8 - Prismatic Bow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-bow--830/)
9 - Prismatic Deluge (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-deluge--831/)


I think we should replace some of the others.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on May 07, 2012, 12:47:38 PM

My Votes:

1 - Raptor's Sight (the other one mimics the granted power too much)
3 - Unicorn Arrow (Blessed Sight seems only useful for good)
5 - I would pick True Seeing of those two, but prefer something else
6 - Fiery Vision

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: whitesword on May 07, 2012, 02:45:07 PM

Hawkeye (formerly Raptor's Sight) at first. As for the rest I would vote for those that can be used w any ranged weapon, either applying to the weapon or the wielder.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on May 08, 2012, 01:36:10 PM

For 2nd level, how about arrow rain from Magic of Habololy?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Hero on May 09, 2012, 05:33:53 AM

There's Arrowsplit (Rang3) in Champions of Ruin. Transform an arrow or bolt mid-flight into 1d4+1 arrows.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on May 09, 2012, 09:40:11 AM

Update

1 - Raptors Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/races-of-the-wild--84/raptors-sight--3117/)
2 - Brilliant Energy Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/brilliant-energy-arrow--290/) or Arrow Rain
3 - Melf's Unicorn Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-ii--80/melfs-unicorn-arrow--2933/) or Arrow Split (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/arrowsplit--266/)
4 - Arrow Storm (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/arrow-storm--412/)
5 - True Seeing (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/true-seeing--2520/) or how about DragonSight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/draconomicon--92/dragonsight--1035/)
6 - Brilliant Blade (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-arcane--55/brilliant-blade--537/) - or Arrow of Bone (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-arcane--55/arrow-of-bone--519/) or Firey Vision (http://dndtools.eu/spells/shining-south--25/fiery-vision--3275/) or Dream Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-divine--56/dream-sight--676/) or Prismatic Eye (http://dndtools.eu/spells/magic-of-faerun--20/prismatic-eye--1685/)
7 - Power Word Blind (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/power-word-blind--2566/) or Righteous Glare (http://dndtools.eu/spells/book-of-exalted-deeds--52/righteous-glare--92/)
8 - Prismatic Bow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-bow--830/)
9 - Prismatic Deluge (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-deluge--831/)



The issue with arrow split and brilliant energy arrow is you must fire it the same round as it is cast.  Technically if you have 1 round, and you cast it at the start, your next round will be within that one round time.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on May 09, 2012, 09:58:57 AM

I think Dragon Sight is a great choice, we just change the material component.

Righteous Glare is too goodly, Power Word Blind is better.

1 - Raptors Sight
2 - Arrow Rain
3 - Melf's Unicorn Arrow
4 - Arrow Storm
5 - Dragon Sight
6 - Fiery Vision
7 - Power Word Blind
8 - Prismatic Bow
9 - Prismatic Deluge

I think we need a replacement for Arrow Storm.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Malchia on May 09, 2012, 04:00:47 PM

How about Improved Blindsight for 4th?

Improved Blindsight
(Savage Species)

Transmutation
Level: Druid 4, Sorcerer 4, Wizard 4, Cleric 5,
Components:

As blindsight, except as noted above and that the blindsight granted by the spell has a 60-foot range.

Blindsight
(Magic of Faerun)

Transmutation
Level: Druid 3, Sorcerer 3, Wizard 3, Cleric 4,
Components: V, S,
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Touch
Target: Creature touched
Duration: 1 hour/level
Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)

This spell grants the Blindsight feat.
The target creature gains sensitivity to vibrations, so that it maneuvers and fights as well as a sighted creature.
The target creature's senses extend to a 30-foot radius, and the creature need not make Spot or Listen checks to notice creatures within this range.
Invisibility and darkness are irrelevant, though the creature can't discern ethereal beings.
(For details, see Blindsight, page 73 of the DUNGEON MASTER's Guide).

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on May 09, 2012, 05:01:02 PM

I think improved Blind sight is a great alternative at 4th.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on June 04, 2012, 02:05:15 PM

1 - Raptors Sight
2 - Arrow Rain
3 - Melf's Unicorn Arrow
4 - Blind Sight
5 - Dragon Sight
6 - Fiery Vision
7 - Power Word Blind
8 - Prismatic Bow
9 - Prismatic Deluge

And the previously described granted power.

Any problems or locked tomorrow.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 04, 2012, 02:13:24 PM

Quote from: Asinjin on June 04, 2012, 02:05:15 PM

1 - Raptors Sight
2 - Arrow Rain
3 - Melf's Unicorn Arrow
4 - Blind Sight
5 - Dragon Sight
6 - Fiery Vision
7 - Power Word Blind
8 - Prismatic Bow
9 - Prismatic Deluge

And the previously described granted power.

Any problems or locked tomorrow.

What mix of vision/combat are you looking for?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on June 04, 2012, 02:16:14 PM

1/3 and 2/3  OR 1/2 and 1/2

Looks like there a good mix right now.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: whitesword on June 04, 2012, 03:36:08 PM

Looks good to me except the name of the first level spell is still wrong.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 04, 2012, 05:08:36 PM

I think dragon sight and blindsigh are too similar.  So i propose replacing blindsigh, as dragonsight gives everything blightsight does:

Bloodfreeze Arrow

(Champions of Ruin)

Transmutation
Level: Assassin 4, Ranger 4, Justice of Weald and Woe 4,
Components: V, M,
Casting Time: 1 swift action
Range: Touch
Target: One masterwork arrow or bolt
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: Fortitude partial; see text
Spell Resistance: Yes

This spell is cast upon a masterwork arrow or bolt, transforming its head into blue ice.
In addition to taking normal damage from the missile, the target takes 2d6 points of cold damage and is paralyzed.
A successful Fortitude save negates the paralysis, and the target can make a new save each round (at the start of the caster's turn).
Material Component:Masterwork arrow or bolt.

OR

Arrow Storm

(Complete Adventurer)

Transmutation
Level: Ranger 4,
Components: V,
Casting Time: 1 swift action
Range: Personal
Target: You
Duration: 1 round

You can cast this spell only at the beginning of your turn, before you take any other actions.
After casting arrow storm, you can use a full-round action to make one ranged attack with a bow with which you are proficient against every foe within a distance equal to the weapon's range increment.
You can attack amaximum number of individual targets equal to your character level.
If you choose not to spend a full-round action in this fashion after casting the spell, the spell has no effect.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 04, 2012, 05:12:03 PM

Arrow rain is close to Arrow Storm, so maybe we replace arrow rain with:

Brilliant Energy Arrow

Champions of Ruin (http://dndtools.eu/rulebooks/forgotten-realms-35--4/champions-of-ruin--27/)

Transmutation (http://dndtools.eu/spells/schools/transmutation/)

Level: Assassin 2 (http://dndtools.eu/classes/assassin/spells-level-2/), Ranger 2 (http://dndtools.eu/classes/ranger/spells-level-2/), Justice of Weald and Woe 2 (http://dndtools.eu/classes/justice-of-weald-and-woe/spells-level-2/),

Components: V, M,

Casting Time: 1 swift

actionRange: TouchTarget:

One masterwork arrow or boltDuration: InstantaneousSaving Throw: NoneSpell Resistance: Yes
This spell is cast upon a masterwork arrow or bolt, transforming its head into brilliant energy that gives off light as a torch (20-foot radius).A brilliant energy missile ignores nonliving matter.Armor bonuses to AC (including any enhancement bonuses to that armor) do not count against it because the missile passes through armor.It deals normal damage and has no effect on constructs, undead, and objects.The arrow or bolt must be fired during the same round the spell is cast, or the magic dissipates and is lost.The projectile is destroyed even if it misses its target.Material Component:Masterwork arrow or bolt.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 04, 2012, 05:14:42 PM

I also like:

Darkvision, Mass


(Underdark)


Transmutation
Level: Harper Scout 4, Prime Underdark Guide 4, Ranger 4, Sorcerer 6, Wizard 6,
Components:
Target: One creature/level, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart


This spell functions like darkvision, except that it affects multiple creatures.


instead of firey vision

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 05, 2012, 09:01:27 AM

There are also many more options that "Melf's Unicorn Arrow" which is just a spell, has nothing to do with arrows.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on June 05, 2012, 09:19:09 AM

Lots of good choices, Zunder, since you've done the most work on this one, and have a cleric with the domain, you can decide.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 06, 2012, 08:44:50 PM

So, this is what I'm thinking:


1 -Raptors Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/races-of-the-wild--84/raptors-sight--3117/)
2 -Brilliant Energy Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/brilliant-energy-arrow--290/)
3 -Arrow Split (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/arrowsplit--266/)
4 -Arrow Storm (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/arrow-storm--412/)
5 -DragonSight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/draconomicon--92/dragonsight--1035/)
6 – Mass DarkVision (http://dndtools.eu/spells/underdark--34/darkvision-mass--3508/) or Fiery Vision (http://dndtools.eu/spells/shining-south--25/fiery-vision--3275/)
7 – Mass Invisibility (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/invisibility-mass--2678/) or Power Word Blind (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/power-word-blind--2566/)
8 -Prismatic Bow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-bow--830/)
9 -Prismatic Deluge (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-deluge--831/)

Can i get some votes?

 

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Windblade on June 06, 2012, 09:45:09 PM

I like powerword blind for 8th

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on June 06, 2012, 10:00:11 PM

Quote from: Zunder on June 06, 2012, 08:44:50 PM

So, this is what I'm thinking:


1 - Raptors Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/races-of-the-wild--84/raptors-sight--3117/)2 - Brilliant Energy Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/brilliant-energy-arrow--290/)3 - Arrow Split (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/arrowsplit--266/)4 - Arrow Storm (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/arrow-storm--412/)5 - DragonSight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/draconomicon--92/dragonsight--1035/)6 – Mass DarkVision (http://dndtools.eu/spells/underdark--34/darkvision-mass--3508/) or Fiery Vision (http://dndtools.eu/spells/shining-south--25/fiery-vision--3275/)7 – Mass Invisibility (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/invisibility-mass--2678/) or Power Word Blind (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/power-word-blind--2566/)8 - Prismatic Bow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-bow--830/)
 9 - Prismatic Deluge (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-deluge--831/)

Can i get some votes?

 

On what specifically?

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 07, 2012, 12:03:08 AM

NEed a vote for:


 6th level: Mass Darkvision or Fiery Vision


and


7th level:  Mass Invisibility or Power Word Blind

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on June 07, 2012, 12:06:07 AM

Sorry, I should've seen that.  It ran together in the line.

Fiery Vision and Power Word Blind are my votes.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Windblade on June 07, 2012, 08:34:55 AM

Quote from: Asinjin on June 07, 2012, 12:06:07 AM

Sorry, I should've seen that.  It ran together in the line.

Fiery Vision and Power Word Blind are my votes.

Me too.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Malchia on June 07, 2012, 04:27:08 PM

Quote from: Windblade on June 07, 2012, 08:34:55 AM

Me too.

Agreed

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: whitesword on June 07, 2012, 05:59:49 PM

I agree with Firey Vision and PWB but I am a little worried about all the arrow spells. Do they all apply to any missile weapon?

And it's Hawkeye!!

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on June 07, 2012, 08:19:12 PM

I tried to filter out the ones that only work on arrows.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 08, 2012, 08:26:04 AM

Quote from: Asinjin on June 07, 2012, 08:19:12 PM

I tried to filter out the ones that only work on arrows.

Yeah, me too.


They all seem to work on, arrows, or bolts, etc.  I would think it's not a stretch to apply them to modern missiles as well.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 11, 2012, 02:32:27 PM

So I think this is where we are:         

How about for the 2nd half of the granted ability: Once per day per cleric level, the cleric may take a full round action and use his Spot check instead of his normal attack roll to make one attack when using his deity's favored weapon.  No bonuses to hit from a magic weapon, magic ammunition, feats, or any other source apply; unless the bonus adds to the cleric's Spot check.  Penalties to to Spot checks due to distance do not apply to the Spot attack roll, this attack assumes the cleric already can see the target.  If the attack hits, damage is delivered normally.  Critical threat rolls revert to the cleric's normal attack bonus, with range penalties implemented.
1 -Raptors Sight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/races-of-the-wild--84/raptors-sight--3117/)
2 -Brilliant Energy Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/brilliant-energy-arrow--290/)
3 -Arrow Split (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/arrowsplit--266/)
4 -Arrow Storm (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/arrow-storm--412/)
5 -DragonSight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/draconomicon--92/dragonsight--1035/)
6 – Fiery Vision (http://dndtools.eu/spells/shining-south--25/fiery-vision--3275/)
7 –Power Word Blind (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/power-word-blind--2566/)
8 -Prismatic Bow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-bow--830/)
9 -Prismatic Deluge (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-deluge--831/)
 
 

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on June 12, 2012, 09:46:12 AM

This looks good.  Locked tomorrow unless anyone has a complaint.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: whitesword on June 12, 2012, 06:25:32 PM

At the risk of being a pest, and really only in the interest of avoiding confusion later, unless you really mean Raptor Sight, which only applies to bows and arrows, the spell is now called Hawkeye.

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Zunder on June 13, 2012, 08:36:23 AM

So I think this is where we are:         

Domain: Once per day per cleric level, the cleric may take a full round action and use his Spot check instead of his normal attack roll to make one attack when using his deity's favored weapon.  No bonuses to hit from a magic weapon, magic ammunition, feats, or any other source apply; unless the bonus adds to the cleric's Spot check.  Penalties to to Spot checks due to distance do not apply to the Spot attack roll, this attack assumes the cleric already can see the target.  If the attack hits, damage is delivered normally.  Critical threat rolls revert to the cleric's normal attack bonus, with range penalties implemented.

1 - Hawkeye (http://dndtools.eu/spells/masters-of-the-wild-a-guidebook-to-barbarians-druids-and-rangers--44/hawkeye--1929/)
2 - Brilliant Energy Arrow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/brilliant-energy-arrow--290/)
3 - Arrow Split (http://dndtools.eu/spells/champions-of-ruin--27/arrowsplit--266/)
4 - Arrow Storm (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-adventurer--54/arrow-storm--412/)
5 - DragonSight (http://dndtools.eu/spells/draconomicon--92/dragonsight--1035/)
6 - Fiery Vision (http://dndtools.eu/spells/shining-south--25/fiery-vision--3275/)
7 - Power Word Blind (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-v35--6/power-word-blind--2566/)
8 - Prismatic Bow (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-bow--830/)
9 - Prismatic Deluge (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-mage--58/prismatic-deluge--831/)
 
Thanks Whitesword
 

Title: Re: Vision Domain
Post by: Asinjin on June 13, 2012, 08:42:57 AM

Looks good, unless anyone has an issue, locked tomorrow.