So what exactly is white necromancy?

[Hero]

Zunder brought up the lack of representation of white necromancy in Falan's portfolio. The disciple of falan is supposed to cover that, but I'm not so sure it does.

What is it we want white necromancy to do? Healing magic? What is it's relationship to the undead?

[Zunder]

it was "true necromancer"  and the white part would just be good. There is an example in one of the book. 


Wish I new more about Falan we could tweak the DoF

[Windblade]

I just wanted to say I do agree with you.  I brought this up with DM when I was reviewing prestige but he didn't seem interested in having a regular necromancer(white or dark) but I can't remember why.  Maybe he will let us know.

[Asinjin]

I thought the DoF filled that role.

[Zunder]

I just wanted to say I do agree with you.  I brought this up with DM when I was reviewing prestige but he didn't seem interested in having a regular necromancer(white or dark) but I can't remember why.  Maybe he will let us know.

White/Dark i think would be more on what you do with the talents, not specific classes.  So i think a "True Necormancer" would do it?

[Windblade]

I thought the DoF filled that role.

I think what everyone is saying is that the DoF doesn't fill that role very well because if I remember correctly it includes other aspects of Falan that aren't necromancy.  So the "true necromancer" who is purely magic and undead focused is missing.  We discussed this before when we went over prestige classes but you didn't seem too concerned that we didn't fill that role.   Although I disagree because Necromancers are a part of Habololy tradition and they have been some powerful & prominent enemies.

[Hero]

So isn't the "true necromancer" big into undead? How can you have a good necromancer when, by the rules, the act of creating undead is inherently evil...all the undead creation spells have the evil descriptor, so they can only be cast by someone neutral or evil.

[Zunder]

So isn't the "true necromancer" big into undead? How can you have a good necromancer when, by the rules, the act of creating undead is inherently evil...all the undead creation spells have the evil descriptor, so they can only be cast by someone neutral or evil.

The undead are just a tool   but no seriously.   A True Necromancer could be into Control (evil guys undead) and Destruction of undead like Harrick, rather then creation.  Also a true necromancer knows how to alter, enhance, and channel life forces.  Which is the part of a necromancer people forget.  They used to be able to pull their own life force to power spells.   

[Windblade]

So isn't the "true necromancer" big into undead? How can you have a good necromancer when, by the rules, the act of creating undead is inherently evil...all the undead creation spells have the evil descriptor, so they can only be cast by someone neutral or evil.

I think 2 topics have developed here.  What is white necromancy which we haven't totally answered yet and the need for a necromancer class on habololy.

[Zunder]

I think 2 topics have developed here.  What is white necromancy which we haven't totally answered yet and the need for a necromancer class on habololy.

I think I answered what a white necromancer is.  Someone who controls/destroy undead.  And someone who can alter/modify the life force of others without draining levels permanently, or feeding off if.


and I believe there needs to be a necromancer, as they are party of the world.

[Windblade]

I think  the white necromancer in 2nd Ed. on Habololy was basically someone who used healing magic, resurrection magic, and positive energy magic.  Basically similar to a priest except they used arcane magic to complete these task.    I think in 2E habololy life and death were seen as a continuum and the White Necromancer practiced the healing side of necromantic magic and the necromancer practice the side we traditionally picture as a necromancer.    I think this stemmed from the fact that healing and resurrection spells were classified as necromantic magic in 2E.

[Asinjin]

Why can't the Necromancer just be a Wizard with the Necromantic specialty?  There are plenty of feats to supplement and augment them from there without the need of a prestige class.

[Windblade]

I think then it misses the divine magic that is associate with a True Necromancer.     I think I can come up with some changes to the DoF that might help to solve the problem.  We can address that whenever though because I know Domains are the priority right now.

[whitesword]

I think  the white necromancer in 2nd Ed. on Habololy was basically someone who used healing magic, resurrection magic, and positive energy magic.  Basically similar to a priest except they used arcane magic to complete these task.    I think in 2E habololy life and death were seen as a continuum and the White Necromancer practiced the healing side of necromantic magic and the necromancer practice the side we traditionally picture as a necromancer.    I think this stemmed from the fact that healing and resurrection spells were classified as necromantic magic in 2E.

This is an excellent description.  To a certain extent the white necromancer is a medical dr.  Dr. Frankenstein would be an example of someone trying to use necromancy to a good purpose.