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Seas of Habololy => First Voyage of the Guardian of the Tide => Topic started by: Asinjin on July 13, 2016, 04:54:30 PM

Title: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 13, 2016, 04:54:30 PM
Admiral Jamal looks to have a conversation with Nathan and some of the officers about the goals and plan of the new corsair fleet.  At first, his invitation extends to Nathan, Sasskra, Rin, and Claude.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 13, 2016, 07:05:33 PM
Nathan would also like the clerics of Smofarf, Treetop and Smofarf to attend this meeting.  Nathan basically tells the admiral the following:  That I would like to be involved in helping to end this war and using the Relics of Lakius to help us.  However, if this is done on behalf of Port Talp and the Destroytian Republic then it will look like that our religon is taking sides against K'TH which is not the case.  I and the religion of Lakius would stand against the pirates and K'TH.  The nation of K'TH has many loyal followers of the religion of Lakius and taking a stance like this would stress the religion of Lakius even more then it already has.

Now I do have a plan to help us with these politics but I called you all here because I am not a diplomat nor do I have the skill to navigate these political waters.  Here are my thoughts.  I know we believe the pirates to be tied up with the K'TH but Horarians deny this.  So I say we force their hand.  Admiral Jamal if you can talk to your superiors and have them make a declaration that the Destroytian Republic doesn't not have any issues with K'TH but only the pirates then this will have the effect of taking the K'TH navy out of this war which will be especially helpful for removing ships like the Harrow.  It will also allow me to use the Relics of Lakius in this war to stand against the pirates and not the nation of K'TH.  With the K'TH navy out of the way and the use of the relics it would be easy to break the blockade on the Republic. 

Now if K'Th, which is supposedly run by pacifist clerics of Quan Yin, does not accept this cease fire then we will be able to show that they are not in charge of the nation of K'TH but that the pirates are and we would have to make a plan to deal with this scenario.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 13, 2016, 11:31:27 PM
When you send a request to the temple of Smofarf, called The Great Mage, your response is that the high cleric would be pleased to attend the meeting, but that it will be a month before he can meet.  Pierre tells you that is actually a good thing as the three hundred year old cleric Kelver Mountainmagic is notoriously hard to get a meeting with and rarely leaves the temple.  If you need the meeting to take place sooner, his son, and also a cleric at the temple, can attend.

Dominique Froesta, the city's Grovetender, will attend.

The cleric of Treetop will attend as well.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Zunder on July 14, 2016, 08:19:30 AM
The cleric of Treetop will attend as well.


Isn't this the Dolphin guard?
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 14, 2016, 08:40:54 AM

Isn't this the Dolphin guard?

Yes, I just can't find the name in my notes for some reason.  Rin has met the guard a number of times.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 14, 2016, 09:07:27 AM
The message was sent while we were traveling so hopefully most of that month would be us traveling to talp. 
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 14, 2016, 09:23:36 AM
The meeting is set for the 2nd day of the 5th month.  That is 39 days after you capture the isle.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 14, 2016, 10:51:49 AM
So how long do we have to wait for the cleric once we get back to talp with the island
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 14, 2016, 10:52:32 AM
Two weeks.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 15, 2016, 11:15:12 PM
Ok so lets start the meeting two weeks after we get back.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 16, 2016, 12:05:55 AM
Ok so lets start the meeting two weeks after we get back.

Jamal suggests having it at his office.  He can have it temporarily made scrye proof and have other protections.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 18, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
That sounds good.  I already stated what Nathan wanted to discuss so if any of the PCs or NPCs want to put their 2 copper coins in that would be helpful.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 19, 2016, 12:39:33 PM
That sounds good.  I already stated what Nathan wanted to discuss so if any of the PCs or NPCs want to put their 2 copper coins in that would be helpful.

The meeting at Jamal's office, which is on the docks, is held in a meeting room which Nathan, Sas, Claude, and RIn have been in before.  It is not ornate, nor sparse.  It is a typical office for a ship merchant which has been converted for a more military use.  Stone walls, wooden table and chairs, magically lit, no windows.  The table is rectangular and seats twelve.  Jamal is seated at the head, the entrance to the room at his left.  There are three assistants which aid him during the meeting, all male humans; two of which are military.

Pierre arrives with Nathan, and the cleric of Treetop arrives with Rin.  You wait a bit before the cleric of Smofarf and Habastly arrive.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 20, 2016, 08:38:42 AM
Jamal notes, "The room has been proofed against scrying, clairaudience and voyance, purged of invisibility, proofed from magical travel and incorporeal beings and a sound bubble has been placed around the room.  We also have a dog.  These protection do not last all night, so we can't be long winded."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Zunder on July 20, 2016, 09:23:49 AM
nods at Jamal's words.. " I'll be straight to the point then.  I think out largest concern is the pirates joining forces with the .. " she thinks for a minute.. " the anti-Lakius aquatic overt deities.  We don't have evidence of this today, but it would be close to disastrous for our cause. The aLoad would present dangers to the fleet that few ships would be capable of handling "
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 20, 2016, 10:20:16 AM
nods at Jamal's words.. " I'll be straight to the point then.  I think out largest concern is the pirates joining forces with the .. " she thinks for a minute.. " the anti-Lakius aquatic overt deities.  We don't have evidence of this today, but it would be close to disastrous for our cause. The aLoad would present dangers to the fleet that few ships would be capable of handling "

Jamal asks, "What do we know of these usurpers?  Can you list them?"
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 20, 2016, 11:28:26 AM
I tell him about Olhydra and Daggon which I think we have discussed a bit in the last meeting.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 20, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
I tell him about Olhydra and Daggon which I think we have discussed a bit in the last meeting.

You have to tell again in game for the new clerics listening.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 20, 2016, 01:51:21 PM
One of those is Kelver Mountainmagic, cleric of Smofarf.  When he arrives, the old dwarf comes with three assistants, all dwarves and all you later learn, his descendants.  They enter like a storm, talking loudly and quickly in dwarven, but moving slowly.  It is an odd contrast.  They stop only to be formally introduced at the door to the meeting room.

"Master Cleric of Smofarf, Master Craft Mason, Alchemist of Stone, Lord of The Great Mage, Kelver Mountainmagic has arrived." is the announcement of Jamal's secretary.  "He is joined by his niece, nephew, and grandson; Hermona, Hermon, and Leothan; all cleric of Smofarf."

The crew bows their heads and Kelver enters.  The other adjourn to another room where the assistants will be until called.  Kelver has a neatly trimmed black beard with a receding grey and white hairline.  His forehead is wrinkled stone, not far off from a klingon.  His attire is tight at the wrists and feet, but loose everywhere else to provide him comfort with his considerable girth and allow his hands and feet to move easily.  His clothes are black and dark blue in color, made of materials that do not seem comfortable to a human or elf (closer to burlap than silk).  Around his neck he wears an eight gems necklace, representing the school of magic you assume.  Each gem is two inches across.  he carries a metal tool box, which he places on the floor next to his seat.

"Weell met an good eevnin to ye all."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 20, 2016, 10:41:35 PM
Another in attendance is Dominique Froesta, grovetender of Habastly.  When she arrives, it is with one other human, a teenage male.  The two are dressed in finery you would not typically expect of a cleric of Habastly.  A long green dress, modestly covering her neck and shoulders.  She has a staff of simple wood and an ornate crown of wood.  Her hair is well kept and tied into a complex braid.  Her skin is tanned and her hair is brown, darker than the wood of the crown.  She is a thick woman and her dress reveals little shape.  The teenage boy is dressed to match her in color and he bares a resemblance to her.  She does not look like she has seen ever forty years.

"Grovetender and Life Well temple cleric Froesta and her son Leon." is the announcement by the secretary.  They bow and the son takes his leave.

After she sits, "Good evening, I hope you all are well."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 21, 2016, 12:00:31 AM
After the greeting and pleasantries.  I tell them all of our journey to recover the relics and the about the forcers of daggon and olhydra.  I also tell them what I posted earlier in the thread and my plans to guide the religion of lakius away from being hermits and to become more involved in the world that Lakius helped to create.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 21, 2016, 09:16:36 AM
You tell those assembled the story and details that you have on Dagon and Olhydra, then follow up with your plans (Pierre chimes in on occasion, somewhat rudely interrupting) for the faith.

Jamal is less interested in the direction you are taking the faith, but is respectful.  Dominique is more interested in the direction you are taking the faith, but again is respectful.  The cleric of Treetop demurs to Rinand listens.  Kelver is interested in everything.

Kelver asks a variety of questions about the Floating Isle as soon as you finish.  They are all questions that you have figured out and answer without issue.  They mostly deal with the function of the isle and how it is defended.

Kelver comment, "It'd b'best t'keep it close t'Port.  Witout pow'ful blessins at yer command, it needs our protection."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 21, 2016, 09:17:58 AM
Dominique, after allowing Kelver to speak first, says, "We would also like to offer our condolences on the passing of Deeney.  Kelver had met him, and I am sure thought him to be an able high cleric in his time.  I never had the honor."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 24, 2016, 01:24:54 PM
Jamal asks, "If the isle is attacked, how should we help defend it?"
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 24, 2016, 01:26:23 PM
Dominique asks, "Have you met yet with the high clerics of Tfop?  Having the isle here for an extended period of time is going to make it appear as if there is an allegiance between Tfop and Lakius."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Hero on July 24, 2016, 04:15:20 PM
That sounds good.  I already stated what Nathan wanted to discuss so if any of the PCs or NPCs want to put their 2 copper coins in that would be helpful.
Ssaskra defers to Nathan on all matters related to the defense of the sea.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 24, 2016, 05:00:57 PM
Dominique asks, "Have you met yet with the high clerics of Tfop?  Having the isle here for an extended period of time is going to make it appear as if there is an allegiance between Tfop and Lakius."

We are not planning on keeping it here long.  We are trying to name a high cleric and then move the isle.  I do not plan to stay as high cleric for long.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 24, 2016, 05:49:21 PM
We are not planning on keeping it here long.  We are trying to name a high cleric and then move the isle.  I do not plan to stay as high cleric for long.

Kelvar responds, "Should we be talkin now?  If the new high cleric is diffrent.  If he s'more like Deeney."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 24, 2016, 05:50:49 PM
Jamal responds, "Can we not be assured of the Isle's and your faith's help beyond you and Pierre?  Why not stay on as high cleric and direct the faith in the effort here until the war is over?"
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 24, 2016, 10:15:05 PM
I will only name a high cleric that I trust and has the same philosophy as Pierre and myself.


Ooc:  We forgot to have the cleric from icefia that we are thinking of name hit cleric here.  I also would have talked to him a bit before this meeting to see if he was interested.  I would have never have started his meeting without doing this.  That is what happens when you have a delay.  We might need to adjust a bit to make sure he is here or at least in the city if he doesn't want to be high cleric so I could have talked to,him and known that.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 25, 2016, 10:19:04 AM
You are correct that we did not do the meeting with him, however, for the sake of continuing here, you know that he is not interested in being the high cleric.

It is also unlikely that he attends the meeting, although he does want to meet with Jamal at a different time.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 26, 2016, 02:56:34 PM
Kelver directs a question elsewhere, "Claude, its good to meet you finly.  I had bin told of you.  Good to 'ave you here.  Do you speak for your faith?"
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Zunder on July 27, 2016, 03:09:58 PM
" what is good for the seas, is good for the animals that live there.. Treetop is there to support Lakius, We are late already, we shouldn't give the vile powers to much to grow their presents.  400 Lobster Monsters is enough.. I vote for action "

Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 27, 2016, 03:15:50 PM
" what is good for the seas, is good for the animals that live there.. Treetop is there to support Lakius, We are late already, we shouldn't give the vile powers to much to grow their presents.  400 Lobster Monsters is enough.. I vote for action "

Your fellow cleric of Treetop nods in agreement.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 27, 2016, 03:17:18 PM
Dominique, hearing the story of those creatures, agrees, "We cannot allow our ecosystem to be infected with foreign creatures.  This Olhydra must be evicted, along with Dagon.  But is that more important than the war against the Shelleshe?  Can we afford to split our focus?"
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 27, 2016, 03:18:09 PM
Kelver says, "Bring me the blood and body of one of these lobstrcities so that I can examine it."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: master po on July 27, 2016, 09:17:15 PM
Kelver directs a question elsewhere, "Claude, its good to meet you finly.  I had bin told of you.  Good to 'ave you here.  Do you speak for your faith?"
"I must say it is a pleasure to meet you as well.  I am not sure I should speak for my entire faith.  I guess I am a prelate at times, and I have met Tfop, so...since I am here, why not?"

"Did I hear that you are an alchemist of stone?  I would like to hear more about that.  I have a real thing for powders and dusts these days.  Quite handy actually this last trip."

"I didn't get a chance to collect any parts from those creatures.  Let me know when you have the parts and blood and I would be happy to help to see if there are any unusual properties.  I find that things like that can be quite useful at times.  Maybe you could stop by my shop while you are in the city.  Still working on the new name of it, well i guess I never discussed that with Agniclair, but sure he will be fine with a change." 
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 27, 2016, 09:31:32 PM
Everyone pauses when you finally finish.

Kelver says, "Yes, I am a master of solid alckmee.  I'd be appy to talk it with you later."

Jamal adds, "I don't think you speak for your faith in the way he means Claude.  Do you speak with the authority to order your brotherhood or for the clerics that rule the city?"
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: master po on July 27, 2016, 09:54:20 PM
"Oh. Yeah, I don't think I have that kind of authority here.  Sorry."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 27, 2016, 11:39:10 PM
I think this meeting here we should focus on the war and how the faith of Lakius and the use of the Relics could impact it.  However, this focus will also coincide with fighting off Daggon and Olhydra because if the Repbulic and Port Talp would like the help of my faith and our relics then it will bring with it the enemies of Lakius as well.  We have defeated the immediate threat to the environment that  Daggon and Olhydra brought and we are not aware of any others at that this time.  Can we speak more on the points I brought up earlier about how Lakius can help on in the war and since I am very new at this I would like the counsel of the clerics of the creator gods to help me steer the faith of Lakius during this time of war.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 28, 2016, 07:52:18 AM
Kelver says, "As high cleric, an one that has rarely bin seen doing....anythin...if you are seen an known to take part in the war, airone will assume Lakius as made this a oly war.  Since you are not a well known resident of the Republic or Talp, that would be the only excuse."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 28, 2016, 09:16:56 AM
Dominique says, "If you actively take a role and lead the faith against the Shelleshe, it would send a clear message of the new course you have set for the religion of Lakius.  It would be bold, and have some risk.  You will lose some of your brother clerics and some may even come to challenge you.  But others will rally to your cause and new clerics will join your ranks.  It will be a new day for the faith."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 28, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
Jamal says, "A blessing floating island would be quite an asset.  You leading the way as high cleric would at least give some of the Shelleshe and many Horarians pause about continuing to fight."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 28, 2016, 02:57:52 PM
Jamal says, "A blessing floating island would be quite an asset.  You leading the way as high cleric would at least give some of the Shelleshe and many Horarians pause about continuing to fight."

That is only a possibility of the Horarian are out of the war and the war is only against the Pirates.  If this is not the case then at least prove that the Pirates control the Horarian nation and then we will come up with a plan.  ( I then reference what I said in the beginning of this topic on how this could be accomplished)
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 28, 2016, 03:21:00 PM
Jamal's response is, "Splitting the nation off from the Shelleshe would be quite helpful, but I don't know how to accomplish that.  Religious pressure might be a good tactic.  If you declare a edict against the Shelleshe, but say that the Horarians are not the target, that might be helpful.  If your fellow faiths can do similarly" he motions towards the clerics of the other four religions present, "It could have an effect."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Zunder on July 28, 2016, 09:30:44 PM
Jamal's response is, "Splitting the nation off from the Shelleshe would be quite helpful, but I don't know how to accomplish that.  Religious pressure might be a good tactic.  If you declare a edict against the Shelleshe, but say that the Horarians are not the target, that might be helpful.  If your fellow faiths can do similarly" he motions towards the clerics of the other four religions present, "It could have an effect."


We are in no position to put forth a commandment from Treetop.  Unless his flower sword decides to sprout as a water lily.

Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 28, 2016, 09:48:00 PM
Why not try the tactic that i suggested.  Tell the Horarians that you will not be at war with them and that you will only fight the pirates if they are a truly a nation of pacifist then that should be an easy solution.  If you do that then I will enter the war on against the pirate with the island and the relics.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Zunder on July 28, 2016, 10:43:26 PM
Why not try the tactic that i suggested.  Tell the Horarians that you will not be at war with them and that you will only fight the pirates if they are a truly a nation of pacifist then that should be an easy solution.  If you do that then I will enter the war on against the pirate with the island and the relics.


I believe that will be militarily pointless.  The Civilians and the Pirates might not be of the same mind set militarily, but they are one people.  They are all Horarians. The Corsair forces are relatively small in number, and because we are of the goodly gods, they know we pose no threat to their cities either way.    The only tactics we can use on the Civilian that would work, would cause my god to question my faith. Unacceptable!
    If we strike hard at the pirates, they just sail away and make traps.  We need to find their bases, and destroy their means to make war.  Once their supply chain is broken, they'll need to turn more to the civilians to supply them.  If that happens, then the Civilians will have to pick and choose to either align their support or reject them.  Until then, we need to escort convoys, and lay our own traps for them to fall into.  Taking the fight to them has been almost fruitless to this point.



Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on July 28, 2016, 11:52:01 PM
We separate them so we don't have to deal with the Horarian warships and then go after the pirates with our new ship and the republic war ships or at least break the blockade.  It is so much easier if the nation of the Horarians is out of the picture.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 29, 2016, 10:02:04 AM
Jamal says, "Ambassador Cadmurren, one of the most respected in the world and the lead diplomat for the Republic, has been to Tas-tio-Horari and to the high temple of Quan Yin in hopes of ending the war.  Those meeting failed to end anything.  However, that was more than a year ago and she is the representative of a nation, not a religion.  Perhaps a unified front of faiths on a similar mission with your message will have a different result.  The five represented here going as a unified force would have a powerful message."  He leans back in his chair which creeks and looks to all of those assembled.

Dominique says, "I will contact Habastalai and make sure that is acceptable to them.  I would go."

Kelver says, "I will pray on it, but I think that could work."

The cleric of Treetop looks to Rin.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Zunder on July 29, 2016, 04:30:31 PM
Jamal says, "Ambassador Cadmurren, one of the most respected in the world and the lead diplomat for the Republic, has been to Tas-tio-Horari and to the high temple of Quan Yin in hopes of ending the war.  Those meeting failed to end anything.  However, that was more than a year ago and she is the representative of a nation, not a religion.  Perhaps a unified front of faiths on a similar mission with your message will have a different result.  The five represented here going as a unified force would have a powerful message."  He leans back in his chair which creeks and looks to all of those assembled.

Dominique says, "I will contact Habastalai and make sure that is acceptable to them.  I would go."

Kelver says, "I will pray on it, but I think that could work."

The cleric of Treetop looks to Rin.


I'm not opposed to the plan, just don't think it will work!  Pirates are pirates for a reason, having "religion" come down on them isn't much different then "law".  People have been trying to pin them down for ages with little success.  I'm happy to help were I can though and give it the best chance for success.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on July 31, 2016, 01:18:23 PM
Jamal says, "Until your ship is complete, you have time.  If you travel to Tas-tio-Horari as a religious delegation, is it worth trying."
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Windblade on August 05, 2016, 11:09:16 PM
We just need to know if we do this then the Republic will also back down from the war if our negotiations go well.
Title: Re: War Discussion
Post by: Asinjin on August 06, 2016, 09:22:25 AM
We just need to know if we do this then the Republic will also back down from the war if our negotiations go well.

Jamal says, "Formally, yes we would end the war.  Practically, it would make almost no difference since every encounter we have is with the Shelleshe.  I doubt any citizens would trade with Kathow-tio-Horari even if allowed."