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Wizards / Cults of Cold => The Return => Topic started by: Asinjin on June 05, 2015, 12:53:46 AM
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You all made it...to where remains to be seen.
Experience is so varied that I will do it my private message individually.
Don't think there is much to discuss on the boards between now and next week.
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You leave on the 22nd day of the 6th month 787.
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During our seemingly endless astral journey, Vega has a thought:
"Hey casters, question for you. From what I learned back in Port Springs, the subject of a Temporal Stasis can initially try to resist the effect when he is first targeted.
And there is a minor clerical blessing, "Resurgence" I think, that allows the subject to try to break free of an effect he initially failed to resist.
So my question is this...could Resurgence work on Temporal Stasis?"
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During our seemingly endless astral journey, Vega has a thought:
"Hey casters, question for you. From what I learned back in Port Springs, the subject of a Temporal Stasis can initially try to resist the effect when he is first targeted.
And there is a minor clerical blessing, "Resurgence" I think, that allows the subject to try to break free of an effect he initially failed to resist.
So my question is this...could Resurgence work on Temporal Stasis?"
Spellcraft check: d20 +25= 7+25 :: 32 total
Marcus replies, "If the Templar can't answer that, or won't, I shall. It is possible that the 'Resurgence' spell you speak of will work. However, one of the requirements is that you touch the recipient of the spell. Depending on their location of confinement, we may not be able to physically touch them in order to enact the spell."
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Cloud will weigh in also: 29+12=41
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I am wondering whether it can actually affect them or not. Are subjects in temporal stasis immune to spells being cast on them?
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I am wondering whether it can actually affect them or not. Are subjects in temporal stasis immune to spells being cast on them?
Marcus barks a harsh laugh. "If they were, then spells such as 'Freedom' would not work, would they."
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Marcus barks a harsh laugh. "If they were, then spells such as 'Freedom' would not work, would they."
"I see. Here's a fun fact: 67% of all the sorcerers I've met in my career have been total dicks. Nice to see that you fall neatly in line with the laws of probability.
I didn't ask about Freedom. I am aware that Freedom and Dispel Magic counter the effect of Temporal Stasis, however, they do not enchant the subject.
I'm asking about other spells that are cast on the subject that don't specifically break temporal stasis. My research indicated that no force or effect could influence the subject, so up until now I wasn't sure anything else would work. Granted, I get this type of info second hand, so maybe I was misinformed by the revered clerics of the deity of arcane magic.
If you are saying that Resurgence works, though, then there are supplemental blessings that could be paired with it to boost their resistance. Opens up other options too...what about Teleport or Anti-magic Field?"
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I think DM needs to rule on this. There is not a clear answer when you read the wording of both spells. I [peronally think it wouldn't effect it. Either way Cloud knows the answer and will share it once DM makes a ruling.
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I think DM needs to rule on this. There is not a clear answer when you read the wording of both spells. I [peronally think it wouldn't effect it. Either way Cloud knows the answer and will share it once DM makes a ruling.
DM is enjoying the in character banter, and since there is nothing else to do on the boards this week, I haven't looked into it yet.
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"I see. Here's a fun fact: 67% of all the sorcerers I've met in my career have been total dicks. Nice to see that you fall neatly in line with the laws of probability.
I didn't ask about Freedom. I am aware that Freedom and Dispel Magic counter the effect of Temporal Stasis, however, they do not enchant the subject.
I'm asking about other spells that are cast on the subject that don't specifically break temporal stasis. My research indicated that no force or effect could influence the subject, so up until now I wasn't sure anything else would work. Granted, I get this type of info second hand, so maybe I was misinformed by the revered clerics of the deity of arcane magic.
If you are saying that Resurgence works, though, then there are supplemental blessings that could be paired with it to boost their resistance. Opens up other options too...what about Teleport or Anti-magic Field?"
Your experience is more than a full deviation above the mean. Over 80% of all sorcerers are useless and most of the remaining are charming enough to fool you into not noticing.
If only we had a Chronomancer handy to explain the nuances of the temporal stasis spell. Oh well.
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Your experience is more than a full deviation above the mean. Over 80% of all sorcerers are useless and most of the remaining are charming enough to fool you into not noticing.
If only we had a Chronomancer handy to explain the nuances of the temporal stasis spell. Oh well.
As you banter and argue back and forth.. Shondo is arguing with Willy (his invisible friend) about where in the great Forrest had the best tree moss for tree moss souffle'. More then a couple time he holds up a small wooden cylinder cage with a colorful preying mantis in it and says "Ralph the lucky preying matis agrees!!"
He also offers to tattoo anyone who would like one..
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"I see. Here's a fun fact: 67% of all the sorcerers I've met in my career have been total dicks. Nice to see that you fall neatly in line with the laws of probability.
I didn't ask about Freedom. I am aware that Freedom and Dispel Magic counter the effect of Temporal Stasis, however, they do not enchant the subject.
I'm asking about other spells that are cast on the subject that don't specifically break temporal stasis. My research indicated that no force or effect could influence the subject, so up until now I wasn't sure anything else would work. Granted, I get this type of info second hand, so maybe I was misinformed by the revered clerics of the deity of arcane magic.
If you are saying that Resurgence works, though, then there are supplemental blessings that could be paired with it to boost their resistance. Opens up other options too...what about Teleport or Anti-magic Field?"
"Beware your tongue. I do not take kindly to insults. Were it not for our current endeavor, I would turn you into a pile of ash. As it is, you are on this mission for a reason. As to that reason, I can only assume it is to rut with locals should we need to gain their confidence in that way. As to your question [now speaking as to a child] Divine magic is different than the Arcane Mastery we wield. Divine casters are given access to spells through their faith. We Arcane spellcasters harness the raw power of magic and shape it to our will. I could lecture, at length, about the reasons this magic or that magic would or would not work. But it would not be worth the breath to do so. I only posited an answer to your question, thinking, mistakenly, you would be wise enough to comprehend my explanation."
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Your experience is more than a full deviation above the mean. Over 80% of all sorcerers are useless and most of the remaining are charming enough to fool you into not noticing.
If only we had a Chronomancer handy to explain the nuances of the temporal stasis spell. Oh well.
"I would hardly call us useless. If it were not for us Sorcerers, how would wizards ever know what they could strive to accomplish?"
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"I would hardly call us useless. If it were not for us Sorcerers, how would wizards ever know what they could strive to accomplish?"
Amen, brother. Somewhere (buried under rock and entombed in amber) Malchia sends out thoughts of wholehearted agreement.
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"Beware your tongue. I do not take kindly to insults. Were it not for our current endeavor, I would turn you into a pile of ash. As it is, you are on this mission for a reason. As to that reason, I can only assume it is to rut with locals should we need to gain their confidence in that way. As to your question [now speaking as to a child] Divine magic is different than the Arcane Mastery we wield. Divine casters are given access to spells through their faith. We Arcane spellcasters harness the raw power of magic and shape it to our will. I could lecture, at length, about the reasons this magic or that magic would or would not work. But it would not be worth the breath to do so. I only posited an answer to your question, thinking, mistakenly, you would be wise enough to comprehend my explanation."
Oh please, Supreme Sorcerer of Overwhelming Power, I meant no disrespect! I was simply pointing out the similarities in personalities as a mathematical curiosity. I surely could not stand against your Supreme Overwhelming Power! If I only I spent the past 60+ years of my life living amongst the foremost practitioners of arcane magic on Habololy and learning highly effective methods to combat them. But alas, I have not! Forgive my insolence.
Please lecture away! If I could learn but a small fraction from you and your Supreme Overwhelming Power, I would consider myself blessed by Smofarf and all the deities of Habololy. Wait let me get out my notebook so I don't miss anything...but please, make sure to use small words..." [waiting with a genuine? look of eagerness]
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When does this dicussion actually happen because I assume it wouldn't happen right after we leave the astral plane. Since most are at varying states of near death and people entered the portal at different times.
Assuming it is before the fight then Cloud weighs in on the resurgence. The spell resurgence will not remove the temporal stasis spell. However, it can allow the person to resist the spell temporaily and if they are able to then they can act briefly before they have to try and resist the spell again. The are constantly fighting of the effects of the temporal stasis and even the most strong of will eventually succumb again. That being said we assume a being of god like power or a even a god cast the spell for Luigi and Montaron to succumb to it so I don't know if any of them will be able to resist its effects even for the brief time that resurgence allows.
OOC: Resurgence allows another save. If they make the save they can act for a round but then next round they have to make a save again or be back under temporal stasis. The freedom last until they fall the save again.
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Oh please, Supreme Sorcerer of Overwhelming Power, I meant no disrespect! I was simply pointing out the similarities in personalities as a mathematical curiosity. I surely could not stand against your Supreme Overwhelming Power! If I only I spent the past 60+ years of my life living amongst the foremost practitioners of arcane magic on Habololy and learning highly effective methods to combat them. But alas, I have not! Forgive my insolence.
Please lecture away! If I could learn but a small fraction from you and your Supreme Overwhelming Power, I would consider myself blessed by Smofarf and all the deities of Habololy. Wait let me get out my notebook so I don't miss anything...but please, make sure to use small words..." [waiting with a genuine? look of eagerness]
"Words have not been invented that are small enough for you to understand what I could teach you. Stick to what you are good at, swinging bits of metal at things and asking insightful questions, even if you get an answer you don't understand every once and a while."
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I think this conversation would have happened before you leave for the astral plane, when you were discussing ways to free the imprisoned.
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When does this dicussion actually happen because I assume it wouldn't happen right after we leave the astral plane. Since most are at varying states of near death and people entered the portal at different times.
Assuming it is before the fight then Cloud weighs in on the resurgence. The spell resurgence will not remove the temporal stasis spell. However, it can allow the person to resist the spell temporaily and if they are able to then they can act briefly before they have to try and resist the spell again. The are constantly fighting of the effects of the temporal stasis and even the most strong of will eventually succumb again. That being said we assume a being of god like power or a even a god cast the spell for Luigi and Montaron to succumb to it so I don't know if any of them will be able to resist its effects even for the brief time that resurgence allows.
Thank you for the lecture Professor, but as I stated earlier, for that spell to even begin to work, we would need to touch the recipient of the spell. Depending on their current whereabouts, touching them may not even be possible. [looking at Vega and speaking slowly] And if we can't touch them, we can not cast the spell on them.
This also assumes that they are under the effect of the Temporal Stasis spell. There are other spells that do the same thing but are easier to undo. Amber Sarcophagus comes to mind. If they are under the effects of that spell, all we would have to do is destroy the amber they are encased in and they would be free. Although, that spell is usually only active for a number days, a fortnight at the least, and then the captives are freed when the spell expires. There are ways to extend the duration of the spell, but we all know that. [Marcus looks around] well, most of us know that.
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We have to assume the information we received from "The Collector" is correct until otherwise proven wrong. I can't believe I just said that. There are hundreds of spells of ways to imprison people arcane and other wise so lets just assume that they are in temporal stasis because that is the information we were given. Also lets assume that we are able to get close enough to them to use touch spells with our magic I don't think there is a place they could put them where we couldn't reach them with the magic we have at our disposal. However, like I said earlier I don't think resurgence is the plan of action to get them out of where they are.
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We have to assume the information we received from "The Collector" is correct until otherwise proven wrong. I can't believe I just said that. There are hundreds of spells of ways to imprison people arcane and other wise so lets just assume that they are in temporal stasis because that is the information we were given. Also lets assume that we are able to get close enough to them to use touch spells with our magic I don't think there is a place they could put them where we couldn't reach them with the magic we have at our disposal. However, like I said earlier I don't think resurgence is the plan of action to get them out of where they are.
Shondo looks deep in thought as you all discuss the deep studies of arcane thought.. He looks ready to speak.. but catches himself, thinks some more nods his head in agreement as he doggy paddles forward in the weird astral plane. Then he puts a careful finger to his chin and speaks.. " It's too late to do much because we've already left.. Save you egos until we get there and find what presents itself to us.. Willy and " he holds up the mug sized wooden cage " The Mighty Mantis Agree!.. that's three votes! "
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[looking at Vega and speaking slowly] And if we can't touch them, we can not cast the spell on them.
I write that down. "Thank you so much, Supreme Sorcerer! I am learning so much from you already!"
OOC: Resurgence allows another save. If they make the save they can act for a round but then next round they have to make a save again or be back under temporal stasis. The freedom last until they fall the save again.
Where's this from? SPC version of resurgence says if you make the save the effect is negated. Temporal Stasis is Fort negates.
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I write that down. "Thank you so much, Supreme Sorcerer! I am learning so much from you already!"
Where's this from? SPC version of resurgence says if you make the save the effect is negated. Temporal Stasis is Fort negates.
That is from DM. The Temporal Stasis states that the magic has to be removed, which is unique wording. Twenty castings of a 1st level spell should not be able to auto end an 8th level spell that required touch, SR, and save.
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That is from DM. The Temporal Stasis states that the magic has to be removed, which is unique wording. Twenty castings of a 1st level spell should not be able to auto end an 8th level spell that required touch, SR, and save.
Shonodo does the backstroke through the air.. whispering to someone smiling as he passes you each..