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Wizards / Cults of Cold => The Return => Topic started by: Asinjin on March 08, 2013, 12:11:00 AM

Title: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Asinjin on March 08, 2013, 12:11:00 AM
To start, xp for the session:

For planning, debate, and item preparation; everyone gets 1500.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Zunder on March 08, 2013, 09:12:45 AM
So.. we don't know what we are walking into... if fact a greater deity doesn't know what we are walking into.  And we where worried about setting a trap for a minor deity from another planet. Great...  We know little.. we know that Malchia tried to sneak in, which was met with resistance.  However that tells us nothing, we'd meet anyone we though was sneaking into our protected areas with resistance.  We know Vishtoo now guard Home.. however that tells us little, other then the obvious.  Going in with force probably isn't the greatest idea, since is i've said 10 times, we don't know what we are walking into.  Specially if we can't teleport out.



Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 08, 2013, 09:16:31 AM
So.. we don't know what we are walking into... if fact a greater deity doesn't know what we are walking into.  And we where worried about setting a trap for a minor deity from another planet. Great...  We know little.. we know that Malchia tried to sneak in, which was met with resistance.  However that tells us nothing, we'd meet anyone we though was sneaking into our protected areas with resistance.  We know Vishtoo now guard Home.. however that tells us little, other then the obvious.  Going in with force probably isn't the greatest idea, since is i've said 10 times, we don't know what we are walking into.  Specially if we can't teleport out.
I was able to teleport out from the bridge leading into Home, but I was scrambled a bit on the way out.  I felt something strange come over me, but was able to overcome it.  I then appeared over an ocean somewhere and simply teleported from that point back to the college.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 08, 2013, 09:26:11 AM
I suggest memorizing spells that overcome Spell Resistance and offer little in the way of self defense for your opponents (i.e. no saving throws).  I honestly don't know if antimagic is effective in Home since the place is brimming with Arcane power, but that might be an effective tool as well.

If we're able to successfully reconnect with Galen, we'll no doubt find some answers on what's going on and be able to strategize our next move. 
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Asinjin on March 08, 2013, 09:35:40 AM
It is the 19th day of the 2nd month (appropriately Smofena) of 786.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Asinjin on March 08, 2013, 09:36:41 AM
At one point that day, Haskra delivers a message to Montaron that he will help in any way (short of going with you) that he can.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Zunder on March 08, 2013, 10:31:51 AM
I was able to teleport out from the bridge leading into Home, but I was scrambled a bit on the way out.  I felt something strange come over me, but was able to overcome it.  I then appeared over an ocean somewhere and simply teleported from that point back to the college.


Ehh... that's not good.. wizards don't like when they can't escape.


I review some history from Home, have they ever had political allies?
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Asinjin on March 08, 2013, 10:33:29 AM
No political allies.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Terrorshard on March 08, 2013, 10:57:45 AM
I don't see us being able to sneak in short of mugging some vishtoo and using magic to disguise ourselves as them and replace them.  I don't see diplomacy getting us anywhere, and an all out assault for spell caster when we don't know what we are up against seems like a bad idea.  I am at a bit of a loss.  Maybe we should scout the area for an amount of time and see whether anything goes in or comes out and at what frequency.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Hero on March 08, 2013, 09:27:04 PM
Malchia, tell us about your first trip to Home. How did you get in? Was there a vistoo guarding the bridge?
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 08, 2013, 10:45:26 PM
Malchia, tell us about your first trip to Home. How did you get in? Was there a vistoo guarding the bridge?
I teleported into the airspace right before the city entrance.  Once there, I approached the bridge leading into Home.  Nefario alerted me to the presence of a Vishtoo gaurd patrolling nearby so I decided to sneak past him.  He noticed me right away and approached my location.  I tried to teleport back to the college but something prevented that from happening.  I managed to appear over an ocean somewhere and teleported to the college from there.  There's not much more to tell.  I was trying to gather some information before bringing all of you there, but as it turns out, we're going anyway thanks to a little help from Smofarf. 

What I can tell you from my time spent there, the place is completely magic.  Every structure, energy source, and individual there radiates arcane magic.  There is a fuming green smoke that flows throughout the entire city that enhances magical ability.  It has an assortment of benefits but nobody seems to be able to pinpoint exactly how it works.  It appears to be pure magical essence.  It was mentioned to me that prolonged exposure (we're talking decades) can have negative effects, but I didn't witness anyone with negative side effects. It is believed to be the birthplace of arcane magic, and in particular, spontaneous casting.  Some of the most powerful magic items in all existence were forged there.  Some even before Habololian recorded history.  It feels very natural for someone like myself and I can see why it was simply named "Home."  The residents were very welcoming before the insurrection.       
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: whitesword on March 08, 2013, 11:18:56 PM
It's interesting that you say insurrection. Do you believe the conflict you witnessed was all internal to Home or the result of an outside force?

You said the strife seemed to begin when a discovery was made regarding one or more of Quentin's items. Was it an item you possessed or one that they had there that was at issue? Or was it some new ability discovered when items were combined?
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 09, 2013, 12:39:37 AM
It's interesting that you say insurrection. Do you believe the conflict you witnessed was all internal to Home or the result of an outside force?

You said the strife seemed to begin when a discovery was made regarding one or more of Quentin's items. Was it an item you possessed or one that they had there that was at issue? Or was it some new ability discovered when items were combined?
I said insurrection because the guards there protecting the city seemingly turned on the residents.  If something more is happening, I'd like to find out.

It started when some of the powers of one of my quest items was discovered; the earrings that the Collector now has.  The earrings were already in Home when I arrived.  Galen was bringing me to them.

There was talk of a possible connection to a dead deity, but those theories never got fully hashed out in my presence.  If the research team figured something out, they didn't get the chance to tell me.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: whitesword on March 09, 2013, 03:22:19 PM
That is very worrisome. If it was an outside power that had seized control we could hope that they did not have control of the city's defenses; or that residents of the city might aid us. If it is a faction of the leadership of the city that has over thrown another I think we will have to try diplomacy first. I will ask the deans if they will allow us to represent ourselves as emissaries of the College.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Asinjin on March 10, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
If you assure them that it will be the wizards three specifically representing, that the others are not made known as emissaries, then they are fine with it.  Upon further consideration, Montaron is acceptable as well.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 10, 2013, 11:46:17 AM
If you assure them that it will be the wizards three specifically representing, that the others are not made known as emissaries, then they are fine with it.  Upon further consideration, Montaron is acceptable as well.
That's probably a good idea since I can't promise I won't pick a fight with the guards. 

I'd also like to mention to Russell, Cloud, and Luigi that Galen has a personal bodyguard who is Vishtoo.  I never discovered any information about him.  Galen didn't know much about him and the guard never interacted with me.  I don't know where his loyalties lie.  I didn't see the guard during the riot.  Galen seemed genuinely upset when he came to me and warned me of what was happening, so I don't know if Galen had any part in what transpired or not.  I also don't know if the guard is a victim in all this or a conspirator.  These are all questions that need answering when we get to Home.       
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: whitesword on March 10, 2013, 08:02:07 PM
That's probably a good idea since I can't promise I won't pick a fight with the guards. 

I'd also like to mention to Russell, Cloud, and Luigi that Galen has a personal bodyguard who is Vishtoo.  I never discovered any information about him.  Galen didn't know much about him and the guard never interacted with me.  I don't know where his loyalties lie.  I didn't see the guard during the riot.  Galen seemed genuinely upset when he came to me and warned me of what was happening, so I don't know if Galen had any part in what transpired or not.  I also don't know if the guard is a victim in all this or a conspirator.  These are all questions that need answering when we get to Home.     
I think it would be a good ideas if you did not accompany us at first. It is unlikely that they will take any representations from us as true if they recognize you. If they receive us as scholars we may be able to gain you safe passage with a little diplomacy.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Asinjin on March 11, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Do you have a time frame on when you are planning on the diplomatic mission?  There appears to be no immediate threat, so you can spend time at the college if desired.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 11, 2013, 06:23:13 PM
I think it would be a good ideas if you did not accompany us at first. It is unlikely that they will take any representations from us as true if they recognize you. If they receive us as scholars we may be able to gain you safe passage with a little diplomacy.
Well, I have to accompany you at least to the border of the city so that you'll be able to teleport there on your own.  Once you have the location, you can go back another time and I'll stay back while you perform your diplomatic duties. 
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 11, 2013, 06:29:50 PM
Do you have a time frame on when you are planning on the diplomatic mission?  There appears to be no immediate threat, so you can spend time at the college if desired.
Did Smofarf give off a sense of urgency when he appeared to us?  If not, I'd like to seek out some of my quest items while you guys make nice with the Vishtoo. 
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Asinjin on March 11, 2013, 06:40:06 PM
Smofarf did not give off a sense of urgency.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 11, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
Smofarf did not give off a sense of urgency.
Then I'd like to follow the pull of the ring to the nearest artifact.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Windblade on March 11, 2013, 08:46:39 PM
Malchia doesn't have to come on the first trip especially since we do not have a time frame.  First Malchia can describe the location to us and then we can attempt to scry it.  This might take some time but we will eventually get it. Then we can teleport to it the next day.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Hero on March 13, 2013, 08:25:50 PM
I teleported into the airspace right before the city entrance.  Once there, I approached the bridge leading into Home.  Nefario alerted me to the presence of a Vishtoo gaurd patrolling nearby so I decided to sneak past him.  He noticed me right away and approached my location.  I tried to teleport back to the college but something prevented that from happening.  I managed to appear over an ocean somewhere and teleported to the college from there.  There's not much more to tell.  I was trying to gather some information before bringing all of you there, but as it turns out, we're going anyway thanks to a little help from Smofarf. 

What I can tell you from my time spent there, the place is completely magic.  Every structure, energy source, and individual there radiates arcane magic.  There is a fuming green smoke that flows throughout the entire city that enhances magical ability.  It has an assortment of benefits but nobody seems to be able to pinpoint exactly how it works.  It appears to be pure magical essence.  It was mentioned to me that prolonged exposure (we're talking decades) can have negative effects, but I didn't witness anyone with negative side effects. It is believed to be the birthplace of arcane magic, and in particular, spontaneous casting.  Some of the most powerful magic items in all existence were forged there.  Some even before Habololian recorded history.  It feels very natural for someone like myself and I can see why it was simply named "Home."  The residents were very welcoming before the insurrection.       

I asked about your first visit, not your second.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Windblade on March 13, 2013, 09:31:58 PM
I asked about your first visit, not your second.

Yes that is an excellent question. 

Also can you tell us more about the spirit that possessed when you died with the items on you.  As the being trappe in the item or did he come from somewhere else.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 13, 2013, 09:59:38 PM
I asked about your first visit, not your second.
The first visit was to retrieve the earrings.  I spent close to two years in Home studying magic, comparing notes and skills with the residents, and researching Quentin's artifacts to learn more of their power and origins.  Nothing more noteworthy occurred until the battle with the guards. 
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Malchia on March 13, 2013, 10:01:09 PM
Yes that is an excellent question. 

Also can you tell us more about the spirit that possessed when you died with the items on you.  As the being trappe in the item or did he come from somewhere else.
I never died.  I'm not sure what you're referring to. 
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Windblade on March 13, 2013, 10:06:43 PM
I never died.  I'm not sure what you're referring to.

I am not sure if you died but I can't imagine your are not familiar with what I am referring when Quentin or what ever being took control of your body.  Anything you can tell us about that might be helpful especially if that being was from Home.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Hero on March 13, 2013, 10:15:09 PM
The first visit was to retrieve the earrings.  I spent close to two years in Home studying magic, comparing notes and skills with the residents, and researching Quentin's artifacts to learn more of their power and origins.  Nothing more noteworthy occurred until the battle with the guards.
Was the gate guarded? How did you enter? What's the layout of the city?

You were there for 2 years, surely there's more you can share.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Hero on March 13, 2013, 10:20:54 PM
Can anyone make a greater magic fang permanent? I'd be willing to offer 9000 gold to offset the lifeforce drain from the permanency.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Windblade on March 13, 2013, 10:37:58 PM
How much exp does it cost again?
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Hero on March 13, 2013, 10:56:43 PM
How exp does it cost again?

1500 xp for the permanency.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Windblade on March 13, 2013, 11:17:30 PM
That is a little more then I can afford right now.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Magic Item Proliferation
Post by: Zunder on March 14, 2013, 12:58:20 PM
1500 xp for the permanency.


We can talk after i level.. which won't be for years...