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Wizards / Cults of Cold => The Return => Topic started by: Asinjin on February 07, 2013, 11:53:51 PM
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Start with xp:
Everyone gets 1250.
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You have as much time as you want to spend at the college. You seemed to settle on three days, but you can change that if you want.
You have to spend at least two, as you have identified the helm and the axe; gone to the guardians to talk to them about the slaadi; and found a place to safely keep the ax.
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You have as much time as you want to spend at the college. You seemed to settle on three days, but you can change that if you want.
You have to spend at least two, as you have identified the helm and the axe; gone to the guardians to talk to them about the slaadi; and found a place to safely keep the ax.
Hopefully found a place to keep the axe, that's "NOT" in the tower.
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Montaron, please post where you decide to store the ax.
If anyone got a level, and I think there were a couple that did, send me a message.
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Montaron, please post where you decide to store the ax.
If anyone got a level, and I think there were a couple that did, send me a message.
The axe is safe at the high temple of Smofarf. I'm not so sure that will be the end of our dealing with the Collector though.
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If anyone got a level, and I think there were a couple that did, send me a message.
Malchia got a level. I'll email you the details.
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From the Wizards tower, what direction does the ring point me? I'm curious to see if anything is closer to me at this point.
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The sense from here is faint, it generally is direction you north, but the pull is so weak that it is almost negligible.
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Lorenzo will take as many summon monster spells as Monteron, Luigi, and Cloud are willing to cast. Does anyone at this college have a unique familiar or animal companion?
Other than that, I spend the rest of my time hitting as many college bars as possible. I've been alone in the wilderness for about 2years, have some catching up to do.
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Enzo is quite a hit at the bars.
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Notes on the college when you arrive:
The weather is brutally cold. After the few hours of daylight the temperature stays below zero. The river is frozen solid and food is scarce. Arion's first edict, that the kingdom send relief to the starving Elven refugees, has not proven popular but the city dwellers are in no danger.
The presence of Malchia, Enzo, Montaron, and briefly Owen, is the talk of a sparsely populated campus. The new school term starts in two weeks. Three of the Deans visit the tower to meet with all of you: Fulcren Granitebreaker, the acting dean, who primarily is interested in speaking with Montaron, who is the most powerful cleric of Smofarf to visit is some time, as the dean is a devout follower of Smofarf. He also speaks to Russel hoping for word of Allanda's return or Iyuae's recovery.
Dean Hawklyn wants to hear of the Collector and does not like what he hears. The dean also approaches Malchia and asks to discuss the items of Questin.
Dean Haskra, the purple hued Sakor'akai and Mystic Thurge of Smofarf, is also interested in speaking with Montaron but spends time with the group asking questions about the cult, looking for links to the cults at work here in Icefia.
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Dean Hawklyn wants to hear of the Collector and does not like what he hears. The dean also approaches Malchia and asks to discuss the items of Quentin.
I speak with the Dean and explain the items to the best of my knowledge. I also tell him that The Collector has the earrings. I offer him a chance to analyze the gauntlet if he thinks it will help at all. I ask him if he's ever seen anyone passing through the college that was wearing any of the items I seek.
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The Dean is interested and takes you up on the offer to analyze the gauntlet.
"This Collector creature is a curious one. I have heard of his activities. He has grown more bold and is becoming better known. We have been to busy to give him much thought, however, and Lady Allanda has never considered him a threat. That may change non, with this newest information."
He looks at the gauntlet for a while, "As I'm sure you know, this is from the time of our resident wizards. It is from a collection." Assuming he gets filled in on what you learned from Russel, if he didn't know already. "Where did you say you lost the other items?"
"I have never noticed anyone wearing the items, but it is possible that if they didn't show them off, I would not have known."
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"Where did you say you lost the other items?"
I was wearing three of the items when assaulted in Home. It was while examining the earrings that the mutiny took place. I suspect at least some of the items are in the cultist camp, or at least they were when I was originally dropped off by Nefario. As I mentioned before, The Collector now has the earrings. I intend to reclaim all of the items that were taken from me and complete my quest for the final pieces.
On a side note, if you or any of the other Deans know of any magic designed to combat Slaadi, that would be most helpful. They are potent foes.
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"I can't say that I have ever fought any Slaad. I am sure we can find someone who has here. Haskra perhaps."
"Once you've collected all of these items, then you can find a relic....fascinating. And where did you say you were assaulted?"
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"I can't say that I have ever fought any Slaad. I am sure we can find someone who has here. Haskra perhaps."
"Once you've collected all of these items, then you can find a relic....fascinating. And where did you say you were assaulted?"
"I was assaulted North of here. Perhaps you could arrange a meeting with Haskra."
Once we wrap up our conversation, I take the information I learn to the Wizards Three for further discussion. I mention specifically to Russel that Dean Hawklyn is unable to retain any mention of Home which further fortifies our shared belief that the God of Lost Knowledge appears to be at work here.
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"I was assaulted North of here. Perhaps you could arrange a meeting with Haskra."
Once we wrap up our conversation, I take the information I learn to the Wizards Three for further discussion. I mention specifically to Russel that Dean Hawklyn is unable to retain any mention of Home which further fortifies our shared belief that the God of Lost Knowledge appears to be at work here.
Russel says: "In our time Home was completely unknown, even to the most learned sages. We were taught nothing of it at the Academy in Iott. However, what we learned in our travels is that it predated the arrival of the god of Lost Knowledge by a very long time. It may well be that He has an interest in keeping it secret but as its inhabitants have always worked to maintain their secrecy He may have little or nothing to do with the situation."
"As for slaad, they are creatures of pure chaos and spells and items of Law are most useful against them. A trip to the library here should reveal any weaknesses they have."
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Russel says: "In our time Home was completely unknown, even to the most learned sages. We were taught nothing of it at the Academy in Iott. However, what we learned in our travels is that it predated the arrival of the god of Lost Knowledge by a very long time. It may well be that He has an interest in keeping it secret but as its inhabitants have always worked to maintain their secrecy He may have little or nothing to do with the situation."
"As for slaad, they are creatures of pure chaos and spells and items of Law are most useful against them. A trip to the library here should reveal any weaknesses they have."
Perhaps, but I can't shake the feeling that the God of Lost Knowledge has something to do with all this. If for no other reason than I retain my memories regarding him. I was not alive then, nor do I travel the rifts of time like you and your companions. Other than my quest to acquire these ancient magic items, there is no logical reason for me to know. These past few incidents, along with The Collectors presence, make me think something larger is at work. What if The God of Lost Knowledge agreed to help The Collector ascend to godhood by helping him retrieve my quest items? The God of Lost Knowledge could simply erase The Collectors memories after the deed is done so he wouldn't know how to find Home.
As far as the inhabitants of Home maintaining secrecy, I don't even know if any of them still reside there. They were all fleeing during the assault. Also, you forget that Galen, the man I met who led me to Home, named you, Claude, and Luigi by name. Come to think of it, he was accompanied by a Vishtoo gaurd as well...
You seemed to have some foreknowledge of The Collector and God of Lost Knowledge during our last encounter. What is it that you know?
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Perhaps, but I can't shake the feeling that the God of Lost Knowledge has something to do with all this. If for no other reason than I retain my memories regarding him. I was not alive then, nor do I travel the rifts of time like you and your companions. Other than my quest to acquire these ancient magic items, there is no logical reason for me to know. These past few incidents, along with The Collectors presence, make me think something larger is at work. What if The God of Lost Knowledge agreed to help The Collector ascend to godhood by helping him retrieve my quest items? The God of Lost Knowledge could simply erase The Collectors memories after the deed is done so he wouldn't know how to find Home.
As far as the inhabitants of Home maintaining secrecy, I don't even know if any of them still reside there. They were all fleeing during the assault. Also, you forget that Galen, the man I met who led me to Home, named you, Claude, and Luigi by name. Come to think of it, he was accompanied by a Vishtoo gaurd as well...
You seemed to have some foreknowledge of The Collector and God of Lost Knowledge during our last encounter. What is it that you know?
"The fact that you retain your memories is actually the best evidence that He has no interest in you or the items. As for the residents of Home, I was referring to their actions before current events. Regarding our encounter with the Collector, I am not sure what I did to give the impression I had foreknowledge of his arrival. I can assure you I had none. If I did I would certainly have prepared a different selection of spells. Regarding Galen, Cloud, Luigi and I are somewhat famous and he could have any number of interests in us, our abilities, items, associates, what have you. I hope to find out."
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Russel I have to correct you on one thing. That fact that Malchia retains his memories has nothing to do with the God of Lost Knowledge being interested in him. We retained our memories through out all of our adventures and we had uncovered many many things that has caused the God of Lost knowledge to be interested in us.
However, I will test your theory a little Russel. Cloud goes and gets Saladien and Isaac and questions them to see what they remember of Malchia, his items and Home.
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Saladien and Isaac respond, "Yes we remember Malchia." Isaac says it with a wink and nod. "He had a gauntlet and was looking for other stuff."
"Thank Allanda we are home now."
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Russel I have to correct you on one thing. That fact that Malchia retains his memories has nothing to do with the God of Lost Knowledge being interested in him. We retained our memories through out all of our adventures and we had uncovered many many things that has caused the God of Lost knowledge to be interested in us.
However, I will test your theory a little Russel. Cloud goes and gets Saladien and Isaac and questions them to see what they remember of Malchia, his items and Home.
"I must respectfully disagree. Our ability to resist his influence is because we encountered him long ago when he was very weak. It may be that Malchia is sufficiently powerful to resist, though I doubt that as I know others as mighty or mightier than we who fail to resist, or it could be that his constant possession of his gauntlet affords him protection. But it is equally likely that GLK has no interest in him."
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Possibly but I am with Malchia on this one and can't imagine the GLK has no interest in these matters.
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Luigi says.. "Who is this God of Lost Knowledge"....
kidding... :)
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I make the time to meet with all who wish to meet with me as well as see if my services are needed in anyway at the college.
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I make the time to meet with all who wish to meet with me as well as see if my services are needed in anyway at the college.
lol....he's looking to offer 'Services' at the college.... Are you sure you aren't playing Isaac??
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So based on what Isaac and Saladien remember it appears that someone is blocking their memory in some way. The GLK doesn't seem to care about the items. However, someone is blocking the memories of Home. Also have we ever looked at the GLK having any link to Home?
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lol....he's looking to offer 'Services' at the college.... Are you sure you aren't playing Isaac??
Looks are Russel.. look he'll, ... umm... it'll be back, we need to have a plan when it does. If I didn't have a teleport memorized it would have been messy. While we are home, we should come up with a plan, we know he likes certain spells. Counter and attack!
Or.. do we write up a couple scrolls of greater teleport, as an emergency!
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lol....he's looking to offer 'Services' at the college.... Are you sure you aren't playing Isaac??
Poor Isaac.
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Owen you can learn whatever spells you want when we have time. I guess DM will have to determine how many that is.
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It has yet to be determined how long you stay at the college. Currently, there is no time by which you have to leave, although it may get hectic when the new school semester begins.
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You have 12 days until the new semester begins.
Is there a plan for someone to look in on the cultists?
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You have 12 days until the new semester begins.
Is there a plan for someone to look in on the cultists?
We no longer have an item to use as a focus so our odds of success are not very good. It would help if we had a target other than the cleric as he appears sufficiently powerful to resist.
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Waiting on a response from the last private message before responding to the thread.
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My apologies for the delay, I forgot about that. I have now replied.
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Can the wizards use the crystal ball to scry and then plan our attack? If so then Cloud does that.
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You need to have something to scrye. You have not met anyone at the camp, nor do you have any items from it. Enzo, Malchia, and Owen could scrye it, if they had the spell.
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You need to have something to scrye. You have not met anyone at the camp, nor do you have any items from it. Enzo, Malchia, and Owen could scrye it, if they had the spell.
If Malchia lends Cloud the Belt of Sorcerous Prowess taken from the gaurd at camp, could he use that to scry?
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He could use it to scrye the guard.
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He could use it to scrye the guard.
That would produce very few results since he's dead. ;)
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You need to have something to scrye. You have not met anyone at the camp, nor do you have any items from it. Enzo, Malchia, and Owen could scrye it, if they had the spell.
This is why we borrowed the blanket that belonged to the war leader. We can go back to Dramman and try again but he made a high save so I would not expect a different result.
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If we all keep trying for a few days then we are bound to get through.
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There is the issue of getting the blanket for use. But yes, in theory that should work.
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Daane suggests, "How about a scrye location spell? It might be tough since you've never been there, but You have a chance."
After consideration, the wizards believe they would need to make a DC (20 base + 15 distance +5 2nd hand knowledge - 4 Malchia and Enzo having been there connection) for a total of DC 36 on a caster level check.
Like Scrye, if you fail you can't try again for a day. Unlike Scrye, there is no save against it, since it is an area, not a person. The college has this spell in its arsenal, since its a bard spell.
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Ok roll it up for me DM. I have a caster level of 17.
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You succeed on your 2nd day trying.
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I will assume this is day three of you being at the college.
The sensor Cloud places to see through using the spell is above the pit Malchia was held in at the camp.
You can cast the alignment detection spells through it, and do.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you cast it when it is daylight there (not the same time of day as here).
Comparing what you see to what Enzo describes to you:
- The barbarians are gone
- The chosen are gone
- The giant portion of the camp looks twice as big
- There is several feet of snow which the giants have not bothered to clear from anywhere you can see
- There are twenty tents, including the chief's tent, which is the same as Enzo describes
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You are able to keep the sensor open for 17 minutes.
Daane also suggests, "Once you've seen it, you can teleport there and do some information gathering."
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The one giant that comes within your detection range in the time you have is evil.
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Here is Cloud's plan which should tell us everything we ever will need to know about the camp. Cloud teleports about a 1/2 mile from the town. He flies over the town about a 1/4 mile up and casts greater prying eyes (in the PHB).
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You can only teleport to a place you have seen, so you would have to teleport much closer. However, as I imagine you could turn superiorly invisible, then greater teleport, then fly, then greater prying eyes; you can get essentially the same effect.
Do you leave your familiar at home?
It is not a town. It is a military camp. As Enzo and Malchia described, there are no females, children, or permanent structures.
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That sounds good. The familiar comes with me because I make it sup. invis. too.
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Any other spells up before you go?
Daane suggests, "We should light him up with protections."
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Any other spells up before you go?
Daane suggests, "We should light him up with protections."
We should be able to provide him with an array of protections. Assuming we are not planning on going anywhere today I can add a Mind Blank to the defenses.
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You have no plans for doing anything else that day.
Daane suggests, "Anyone have Telepathic Link? Status?"
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Luigi can you cast protections from spells on me. Montaron can you cast a greater status or status, Spell resistance and any other protective spells on me. I cast a bear's endurance, owl's wisdom, cat's grace , nondection, and magic circle against evil on myself. Plus my contigency spell and Russel's mind blank.
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oh and the sup invis already mentioned above.
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Teleporting into a camp full of frost giants, whether you are invisible or not, sounds like an awful idea.
There's a good size fissure about a 1/2 mile southeast of the camp that I used as my base of operations during my time there. I recommend you teleport there, then make your way to the camp.
Up to you really, I guess.
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Ok I teleport to the place that Enzo suggest.
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Any uncommon races here at the college, like bugbear, sandoo, wug, desert elf? Never met an ice gnome or scaled elf either.
There a shrine or temple to Treetop/zoo close by?
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There are sandoo, certainly ice gnomes.
Shrine to Treetop yes, but no zoo.
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So, after all of those spells are cast on you, Cloud teleports to the fissure. From there, you cast Greater Prying Eyes and let them go to work.
As per the spell: "you specify instructions you want them to follow in a command of no more than twenty-five words"
Please do so.
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Any uncommon races here at the college, like bugbear, sandoo, wug, desert elf? Never met an ice gnome or scaled elf either.
There a shrine or temple to Treetop/zoo close by?
There are ice gnomes aplenty and the museum curator is a desert elf, though he is unlikely to spend any meaningful time with you. When the students return there will be a variety of races but none of the others you mentioned.
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After Cloud teleports, without issue, he sends the eyes out.
They spend the time they have surveying the area and collect the following information, which Cloud relays back to the others.
There are 32 giants in the camp, perhaps a couple more if there are some that did not come out of Bereth's tent the whole time. Bereth did come out at one point while you were watching.
Of the 32, all are male, all are frost giants. Three appear different than the others, and after some talk with Enzo, those three are non-Habololian. Bereth is also not of this world.
Bereth is overwhelming evil and he has an overwhelmingly evil staff, which he carries with him. Eleven of the giants have a strong evil presence. The rest have a moderate evil presence. After closer viewing, Cloud is sure that the eleven are some type of undead.
The giants are armed for battle, armor and weapons, boulders of ice. The undead ones have boulders on them, but no weapons.
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The camp is fairly well spread out, although seeing as they are giants, it may just seem that way to smaller folk. About 250 feet separate the farthest tents from each other.
Snow has covered the remnants of the other camps, or so you assume. The only visible structure is a shrine to Frostine, which is not in use, as its too small for the giants to use. It is several hundred feet south of the giant's camp.
There are no mountains or landscape features in sight. If there are any, the snow has covered them.
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The magic staff is going to be a problem. Montaron can you use a commune to determine if the staff is an artificat? If it isn't then we will just disjuntion it. Also Montaron can you use the commune to determine more about the giant leader. Detect evil on a cleric doesn't really tell us much in regards to how powerful he might be.
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The magic staff is going to be a problem. Montaron can you use a commune to determine if the staff is an artificat? If it isn't then we will just disjuntion it. Also Montaron can you use the commune to determine more about the giant leader. Detect evil on a cleric doesn't really tell us much in regards to how powerful he might be.
Commune should tell us if the staff is an artifact or not. Commune will only give me yes or no answers. We would need to decide what questions we would ask and then I should commune. A Divination spell might also be useful depending on what exactly you want to know about the Giant Leader.
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Commune should tell us if the staff is an artifact or not. Commune will only give me yes or no answers. We would need to decide what questions we would ask and then I should commune. A Divination spell might also be useful depending on what exactly you want to know about the Giant Leader.
Would we not be better served using something less taxing than a commune, such as a legend lore? Or seeking the aid of one of our bardic colleagues here?
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From just a visual description, there isn't enough to go on to get info from Legend Lore.
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OK here are some questions for the commune.
Is the staff an artificat?
Then all these questions are about the giant leader.
Can the giant cast (instert spell name here) or other spells of that power? (Do this until we get a spell casting level.)
There is probably a more appropriate in game way to word this but I don't feel like thinking of it right now?
Start by asking "Can the giant attack 3 times in 6 seconds?" If no then ask if he can attack 4 four etc.
Is the giant leader undead? I know he didn't look undead through true seeing but maybe he is a more powerful undead such as a vampire.
That is all I can thinking of right now. I am sure there are other questions we all can come up with. What do you have 14 or so?
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We will get to 13 before I give answers:
1 - Is the staff an artifact?
2 - Can the giant cast Mass Heal? (and down the healing line of spell down to the first yes)
3 - Is Bereth undead?
4 - Is Bereth as skilled a fighter as Martine Vanyar? (and down the line of fighters you know)
Depending on the answers, that could be all the questions you get.
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I was just giving Montaron some help. He usually has to ask the questions himself and during the course of the spell he can changes what he wants to ask depending on the answers. We can't be there for the spell and can only give him some ideas before he cast it.
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We will get to 13 before I give answers:
1 - Is the staff an artifact?
2 - Can the giant cast Mass Heal? (and down the healing line of spell down to the first yes)
3 - Is Bereth undead?
4 - Is Bereth as skilled a fighter as Martine Vanyar? (and down the line of fighters you know)
Depending on the answers, that could be all the questions you get.
Make sure for #2 you add in mass heal or other spells of its power.
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We will get to 13 before I give answers:
1 - Is the staff an artifact?
2 - Can the giant cast Mass Heal? (and down the healing line of spell down to the first yes)
3 - Is Bereth undead?
4 - Is Bereth as skilled a fighter as Martine Vanyar? (and down the line of fighters you know)
Depending on the answers, that could be all the questions you get.
Unless there are more suggestions it will just be this. Throw out any other questions you may have, we aren't limited to just these 2 topics.
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posting xp:
Luigi - 15
Owen - 5
Cloud - 100
Russell - 40
Malchia - 75
Enzo - 15
Monty - 30